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Old 15th February 2024, 19:35
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gliders sent behind front lines

Recently I read a book on the air war in North Africa! It mentions that the Luftwaffe sent two gliders behind the lines in Algeria on the last day of December 1942. The 2 pilots were captured! I think it was from the Med Air Wars C. Shores Vols 3. Could anyone shed any more light on this event! Was it a commando raid, recon or ........... and how many were involved?
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Old 16th February 2024, 21:23
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Re: gliders sent behind front lines

I think it was a sabotage operation that failed. I think this incident is mentioned in a youtube presentation on WW2TV that deals with German glider operations.
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Old 17th February 2024, 15:07
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Re: gliders sent behind front lines

The operation is mentioned briefly at the 1:22:30 mark in this video about the DFS 230:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gT77tKq2eQ
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Old 19th February 2024, 20:12
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Re: gliders sent behind front lines

I ran across this link (search for Arnaud on the link) which is apparently the tail fin of one of the gliders. Glider was found at the end of December 1942,

http://www.255.org.uk/trophies.html
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Old 19th February 2024, 20:57
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Re: gliders sent behind front lines

I think the 30-31 Dec 1942 operation is discussed in Gellermann's KG 200 history (below) and in subsequent English language histories of KG 200 by Peter W. Stahl and another by Thomas and Ketley (see below):

Gellermann, Günther. Moskau Ruft Heeresgruppe Mitte...Was nicht im Wehrmachtbericht stand: Die Einsätze des geheimen Kampfgeschwaders 200 im Zweiten Weltkrieg. Koblenz: Bernard & Graefe, 1988. ISBN: 3-7637-5856-9. Softcover. 326p. Illus. Appendices. Bibliography. Names index.

Thomas, Geoffrey J. and Barry Ketley. KG 200: The Luftwaffe’s Most Secret Unit. Crowborough: Hikoki Publications, 2003. ISBN: 1 902109 33 3. Hb (oversize). Dj. 192p. Heavily illus. Color profiles. Appendices.

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Re: gliders sent behind front lines

I wonder if this particular incident had anything to do with Sonderkommando Dora.

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Old 20th February 2024, 18:14
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Re: gliders sent behind front lines

While researching the below synopsis of "Dora", I saw nothing that would suggest a connection between the 2 DFS 230s in Algeria 30-31 December 1942 and "Dora".

https://www.luftwaffedata.co.uk/index.php/Kdo._Dora

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