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Old 28th August 2005, 23:56
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JG 2 losses - 16th August 1943

I am trying to find out the identity of a FW pilot who was shot down by Norwegian Ace, Svein Heglund (331 Sqn), at 9:20am on the 16th August 1943 over Poix.

Heglund claimed this was an Italian FW but it seems likely he misinterpreted the markings in the heat of the moment. Therefore the most likely instance (especially regarding the date and location of the combat) is that this 190 came from JG 2.

Does anyone here have access to JG 2´s losses for this date and if so is it possible to ID this pilot from the location and time of combat?

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Old 29th August 2005, 00:11
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Re: JG 2 losses - 16th August 1943

Hello Smithy,

the JG 2 losses on 16 Aug 1943 were very heavy indeed so it will be very hard to find the exact Heglund´s victim. The following list was posted by esteemed Charles Bavaroise on the "old" forum in 2003:

- I - - - 190 A6 550213 unbek - - 100 unbekannt
- I - - - 190 A4 7051 bordw nl - 40
St. Clair
- I - - - 190 A6 550213 lk fsa - 100 Nantes
1 I Uffz Knöpfler Georg 190 A5 410051 lk B-17 P-47 100 Villepinte
1 I Uffz Söldner Erich 190 A5 2583 mst nl - dam Poix
1 I Oblt Müller Ferdinand 190 A6 550147 lk B-17 P-47 100 Mitry-Mory
11 I Ofw Gumprecht Herbert 109 G6 18806 lk B-17 - 100 Conches
3 I Fw Utz Wilhelm 190 A5 2628 lk B-17 P-47 100 Marly
3 I Ofw Hartmann Ludwig 190 A4 5734 lk nl - dam Le Boyrcet
3 I Ofw May Friedrich 190 A6 550213 fsa lk - 100 Mantes
3 I Uffz Herbing Paul 190 A4 2449 start fsa - 100 Vernon
12 II Uffz Simmet Franz 109 G6 18805 lk - - 100 Evreux
12 II - - - 109 G6 15652 ausbr start - 15 Evreux
12 II Fw Patz Walter 109 G6 18808 lk -- - 100 Evreux
12 II Uffz Weichert Herbert 109 G6 15422 lk - - 100 Evreux
- III - - - 190 A5 710064 bedf brl - 15 Conches
7 III Uffz Kleinert Otto 190 A5 1167 lk fsa - 100 Pontoise
7 III Fw Wolf Günter 190 A5 410017 nl unf - 100 St. Segal
10 III - - - 190 A5 1103 mst bl - 15 Evreux
10 III Uffz Schmidt Willi 190 A5 2709 lk 4-Mot - 100 Beauvais
10 III Uffz Schramm Kurt 190 A4 754 lk - - 100 Paris

Hope this helps a little,

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Old 29th August 2005, 01:10
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Re: JG 2 losses - 16th August 1943

Thanks hugely Ota!

You´re right this is wide in scope but I am most grateful for it.

Thanks once again,

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