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JU88A of KG51 lost on 17 Jul 1940
In "Then and Now" (p.541) Peter Cornwell records the loss of a I/KG51 JU88A in combat over the Channel crewed by Oblt Rechenberg and three NCO's.
In BBCA Vol.1/p.76 this is given as a 1 Staffel/KG51 JU88A lost without trace with Oblt Dieter Rechenberg and three airmen. I have a JU88A of 3/KG51 lost on this date with Oblt (FF) Hans-Dietrich Rechenberg (56B/65105) born 28 May 1915 at Waldenburg (body recovered 21 Aug 40 near Quend (?) Plage and buried there) Flgr (Beob) Hermann Müller (391/1/Fl.Ausb.Regt.14), born 28 Jun 1919 at Tscherepowetz/Russland (body recovered near Berneval sur Mer/Dieppe area on 20 Aug 40) later promoted Uffz. I believe he was a trainee Beobachter. Gefr (BS) Rudolf Bank (62B/65105), born 14 May 1919 at Lebenstedt/Bruchmachtersen /Braunschw. (body recovered 2 Aug 40 at Retheville, east of Cherbourg) Gefr (BF) Horst Herold (34/65113), born 16 Mar 1921 at Jütrichau/Anhalt (body recovered 18 Aug 40 near Janval/Dieppe) Please can somebody confirm the QMG data for the unit and aircraft, I suspect that 3 Staffel is correct as 9 or more wartime WASt cards for these 4 men all give 3 Staffel with no exceptions. thanks Peter |
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Re: JU88A of KG51 lost on 17 Jul 1940
Hi Peter,
don`t use BBCA as a source of German losses. This books are full of errors concerning German Luftwaffe. Regards Robert |
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Re: JU88A of KG51 lost on 17 Jul 1940
This is what I have, Cull lists the same crew.
Mason - 1969 - Battle Over Britain - p. 135 3./KG 51 - Junkers Ju 88A - Combat Mission - Shot down by Spitfire of Saunders of 92 Sqn., near Bristol at 19.25 hrs. 100% damage. Obit. Dieter Rechenberg + two killed; one missing. Ramsey/Cornwell - 1980 - BoB Then and Now - p. 541 I/KG51 - Junkers Ju 88A - Shot down in combat over the Channel. Obit. Rechenberg and two NCOs killed, one NCO missing. Aircraft lost. Parry - 2016 - BoB Combat Archive - Vol. 1 p. 76 17 July - Other Operational Luftwaffe Losses - 1/KG51 - Ju88A - Lost without trace. Obit Dieter Rechenberg and three airmen missing. Cull - 2017 – Battle for the Channel - p. 98 I/KG51 - Ju88 - FTR: Oblt Hans-Dietrich Rechenberg (pilot), Gfr Rudolf Bank, Gfr Orst Herold, Flg Hermann Muller (all killed); possibly victim of 236 Sqn. Balss - 2018 - Luftwaffe Losses & Claims - Vol. 3 p. 158 I./KG 51 - OP - Frankreich Take off Melun-Villaroche - Near Le Havre - Shot down Ju 88A - 100% damage P N.N. KIA, B Oblt. Hans-Dietrich Rechenberg KIA, Bf N.N. KIA, Bs N.N. KIA Entry from the Luftwaffe Officer Career Summaries, deZeng and Stankey RECHENBERG, Dieter. 17.07.40 Oblt., 3./KG 51 KIA - Ju 88 A shot down by a Spitfire near Bristol. – this confirms the 3 Staffel allocation. Claims were made for Ju 88s on this date by Spitfires of 92 Squadron, Hurricanes of 145 Squadron, and Blenheims of 236 Squadron. Peter |
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Re: JU88A of KG51 lost on 17 Jul 1940
Thanks Robert
Thank you Peter, excellent |
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