Unidentified Fw-190 D

[Matthias Radu]

I was kindly advised to ask for further information on that picture of an Fw-190 D

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=128541

on this board, so I hope something will come to light as far as unit, code, werk-nr., location and so on is concerned.

My best guess is JG 2, somewhere in the Bamberg area, in April or May 1945. Probably the hangar-like structure in the background might give a clue?

Thanks for assistance

Kind Regards
Matthias Radu

[Eric Larger]

There are some noticeable points on this photo

This is an early FW190D-9 belonging to JG2 built by Focke Wulf (look at the camouflage scheme on the engine cowling and the black exhaust area) .

This machine has probalbly belonged to III./JG54 before being posted to JG2 (no group bar can be distinguished on the photo) , look at the spiral painted on half surface of the spinner as on all early machines used by III./JG54 (ref our book Fw Camouflages and markings Part I JaPo pages 94 to 111 or Green Hearts book of Axel Urbanke published by Eagle Editions ).

The W.Nr is probably 2100xx (99% accurate), this is what I can say to you . Effectivelly there is another picture of this machine , taken from opposite side , but also it is impossible to determine the tactical number .

The individual or tactical number cannot be dertermined with 100% accuracy as applied over an overpainted area (perhaps yellow like the tail band) . The Gun cowl is probably a 5 pieces'one (difficult to confim in any way) . The blown canopy was probably fitted later during service perhaps during a maintenance work .

So a simple but in-detail study of this picture can bring you several noticeable points .

Hope that helps

Eric Larger

[Eric Larger]

Few elements to add

the radiator cowling might have been replaced, dissuptive camouflage scheme on both sides . A III group bar could have been painted according to me .

Eric

[Matthias Radu]

Eric,

thank you for these most valuable hints. I had faint hopes that one could see more details on that other picture Mark Proulx mentioned, regarding the callsign and the location.

Thanks a lot

Matthias

[Eric Larger]

Few more interesting points extract from the other picture .

A III Gruppe bar is painted on the cental band of the tricolour tail band . This one has the same grey value than the 2 outer bands so it may have been yellow . The individual number is not clearly visible perhaps yellow 4 or yellow 1 over a repainted area . The size of the tactical code is identical to the one observed on W.Nr 600434 , black 14 discovered after war.

As often seen by III./JG2 the Gruppe bar is painted with the colour of the tactical code , so a machine belonging to 11./JG2.

The hankenkreuz is highlighted in white , another evidence to determine an very early machine (from 210001 to 210037) . The background of the BalkenKreuz is painted in RLM76 as on W.Nrn 210037 , 210015, 210051....

Last evidence , the 5 pieces gun cowling clearly visible on left side photo as well as the black exhaust area .

The propeller blades are broken , perhaps du to a belly-landing . And on left side picture , the spiral covers only half of the surface of the spinner , typical to III./JG54 Fw 190d-9s , this machine could have been posted to before being used by III./JG2.

All the best

Eric Larger

[Matthias Radu]

Thanks again!

That additional info is highly appreciated indeed!

Bien cordialement.

Matthias Radu

[Eric Larger]

De rien Matthias

C'est un plaisir de partager ces informations
(A pleasure to share these topics)

Bonsoir

Eric Larger

[FRANCESCO M LENTINI]

Eric,

thanks for all interesting notes about this Fw 190D.
Where is possible to find the other pic of the plane? (web, books or other)

Thanks

Francesco Maria Lentini