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Old 12th October 2018, 17:51
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Re: Mustang IV in ACSEA

Hello Geoff,
Re scans of the page.
Sorry I only have a tablet and on occasion use the local library ( which only has one machine connected to a scanner) so even that is hit or miss if I hump the book to the library as someone else could be on that machine
Perhaps another member could help ?
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Old 12th October 2018, 18:10
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Re: Mustang IV in ACSEA

From the JB site -

KM
147 - 44-12270
154 - 44-12277
169 - 44-12292
174 - 44-12297
385 - 44-12651
478 - 44-12795
525 - 44-12935
538 - 44-12965
541 - 44-12968
543 - 44-12970
545 - 44-12972
548 - 44-12975
549 - 44-12976
553 - 44-12980
554 - 44-12981
557 - 44-12984
562 - 44-12989
564 - 44-12991
569 - 44-12996
573 - 44-13050
574 - 44-13051
576 - 44-13053
577 - 44-13054
582 - 44-13059
584 - 44-13061
585 - 44-13062
586 - 44-13063
587 - 44-13064
589 - 44-13066
590 - 44-13067
591 - 44-13068
593 - 44-13070
595 - 44-13072
597 - 44-13074
600 - 44-13077
601 - 44-13078
604 - 44-13081
605 to 623 - 44-13082 to 44-13100
624 to 663 - 44-13141 to 44-13180
664 - 44-13221
695 - 44-13252
696 - 44-84391
697 - 44-84392
698 - 44-84393
699 - 44-84394
700 - 44-84395
701 - 44-84396
702 - 44-84397
703 - 44-84468
704 to 743 - 44-84681 to 44-84720.

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Old 12th October 2018, 19:20
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Re: Mustang IV in ACSEA

Yes i can send you the pages if you give me your e-mail

Thank you everybody for your informations !

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Old 12th October 2018, 20:10
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Re: Mustang IV in ACSEA

Hello.

I had a look at two of those Mustang IV's (KM622 & KM631), some time ago:

http://www.rafcommands.com./forum/sh...stang-IV-KM622

The two pilots are buried at Ranchi, India. I suspect A-B has got the location wrong, possibly "Kangla", not "Kargulia".

The Tactical & Weapons Development Unit at Amarda Road, had three Mustang IV's on strength (KM147, KM174 & KM525).

Would welcome comments/opinions.

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Old 12th October 2018, 21:29
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Re: Mustang IV in ACSEA

Hello Alain, thank you for the offer to help,I apreciate it.

Hello Col,
I would think that AB's Halley had searched relevant documents and perhaps copied an original error from same ?
Thanks for contributing to this thread, apreciate it.
I wonder if the two (622 & 631) had collided in cloud ?

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Old 12th October 2018, 23:49
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Re: Mustang IV in ACSEA

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Hello.

I had a look at two of those Mustang IV's (KM622 & KM631), some time ago:

http://www.rafcommands.com./forum/sh...stang-IV-KM622

The two pilots are buried at Ranchi, India. I suspect A-B has got the location wrong, possibly "Kangla", not "Kargulia".

The Tactical & Weapons Development Unit at Amarda Road, had three Mustang IV's on strength (KM147, KM174 & KM525).

Would welcome comments/opinions.

Col.
Colin Cummings spells the place name Karjulia and adds 6½ mls south-west of Golikers. Regardless of that I cannot find either place on Google Maps.

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Old 13th October 2018, 02:52
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Re: Mustang IV in ACSEA

Stig,

You will notice in my link to RAFCommands, that my correspondent did not include the title for the entry on Mustangs KM622/631 from Cummings' "The Price of Peace". Not having a copy of his book, I was flying blind.

Thanks for the mention of the missing information, it negates my proposal of "Kangla".

Here is the entry for the unit (158 SP Ferry Sect.):

No.158 STAGING POST

(1) Formed 10.4.45. at BAIGACHI (originally 24.8.42) in No.117 Wing; 1.7.45 ALIPORE; Disbanded 30.11.45.
(2) Reformed by 1.2.46 at CHAKULIA; disbanded 11.5.46

Aircraft of Ferry Flight: Mustang IV (KM622); Hurricane XIIa (PJ860)

See: RAFFT&SU since 1912/Sturtivant/A-B(2007)/p.258.

The mention of KM622/Chakulia looks interesting! The USAAF had quite a presence at Chakulia: http://www.midnapore.in/arifield/chakulia-airfield.html Seems like a logical place for the collection of decommissioned RAF/US aircraft.

I should also mention, that both KM622 and KM631, were initially reported missing. Their last reported position was 50 miles S of Ranchi. They were obviously located later on.

Col.

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Old 13th October 2018, 10:39
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Re: Mustang IV in ACSEA

The Mustang IVs did flew with FE units based overthere. I put a paragraph in my book 'The Mustang IV over Italy and the Balkans' - SQUADRONS! No.11. I know that it was not the best place to put this kind of info, but I could not put what I got somewhere else...

Actually only three pilots were trained on Mustangs at 1331 CU before training was terminated. They received their first aircraft at the end of August 1945. The Mustang was sent to the FE to replace the Thunderbolts, but with the termination of the Lend-Lease Act there no more reason to continue that conversion as British-made aircraft had to be introduced as soon as possible anyway. So the RAF continued to use the Thun until the arrival of British types.

The other unit which flew the Mustang was the T&WDU with at least three aircraft of which two were SOC after accident, KM147 (F/L AE Lee) on 04 June 45 and KM174 (S/L JFD Ecklington) on 27 July.

I published a nice photo of KM545 with ACSEA roundels being refuelled in the FE, as well of KM735, but location unknown, probably in the USA.

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Yes i can send you the pages if you give me your e-mail

Thank you everybody for your informations !

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Alain,
Yes please. e-m address: bearoutwest (at) yahoo.com.au
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Alex,
No worries. Thanks for the list, it answers 75% of my curiosity anyway.



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Re: Mustang IV in ACSEA

Gentlemen:
I trust that this isn't too late. From the AM 78s there were 235 Mustang IVIVas in the KM 100-741 block that were shipped to the FE. The first 4 to make it were KM 147, 154, 169 and 174. They were received in March 1945. The rest were received at varying times in August 1945. The greatest number were in the block of KM 500-741. The majority were SOC in April 1946 or August 1946. It would appear that none of these aircraft were combat deployed though I could be wrong at that as I am not an expert at reading the AM 78s. There were 3 recorded accidents with the following organizations: TWDU, 320MU, and 5 CMU. Hopefully this will help a bit. Ted51abcdk
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