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Old 12th October 2018, 20:31
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Dutch Do.24K X-16 lost 1/3/42

Hi guys

Can anyone tell me about the loss of this aircraft. Apparently it was on its way to Ceylon on an evacuation flight from Java via Sumatra, since it was lost over the Indian Ocean.

Who were the crew? How many passengers and who were they, and from where?

Any information appreciated.

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Old 12th October 2018, 20:58
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Re: Dutch Do.24K X-16 lost 1/3/42

Hi Brian,
from the Dornier Do 24 website http://www.dornier24.com/


Werk Nr. 776 (Dornier)
Type K-1
Events 1938 entered service as X-16.
September 1939 transferred to GVT 4.
December 2nd 1941 transferred to GVT 8 at Poeloe Samboe.
December 10th 1941 transferred to Morokrambangan for a 400 hour inspection and releaved by GVT 3.
December 23rd 1941 finished the inspection as Morokrembangan.
January 25th 1942 transferred to Tandjong Priok.
January 28th 1942 transferred from Morokrambangan to Tajan.
February 9th 1942 transferred to the Toba Lake to releave the X-17.
February 20th 1942 rescued 2 officers and 35 man from the ship van Nes and 37 men and 1 nurse from the ship Sloet van Beele and brought them to Morokrembangan.
February 23rd 1942 returned to Morokrembangan for a 200 hour inspection.
March 1st 1942 destroyed at Tandjong Priok.

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Old 12th October 2018, 22:17
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Re: Dutch Do.24K X-16 lost 1/3/42

Hi Bruce

Thanks for that but another reliable source mentions that X-16 was damaged and repaired on 1 March before departing for presumably Ceylon.

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Old 13th October 2018, 13:49
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Re: Dutch Do.24K X-16 lost 1/3/42

Brian

I know there are conflicting sources about the loss of this aircraft. Tom Womack in his the Dutch Naval Air Force Against Japan cannot decide which one he should believe, since in the main text state he has the aircraft exploding in the air while on its way to Ceylon (odd place to try and evacuate yourself to, in my mind), but in his appendix gives both versions for that same specific aircraft.

What is odd, is that so far no one has come up with a single name of anyone onboard, not even the NCO who was the single survivor and obviously reached India.

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Old 13th October 2018, 15:50
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Re: Dutch Do.24K X-16 lost 1/3/42

Hi Stig

Good to hear from you.

The RAF NCO survivor was Sgt Percy Tottle.

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Old 13th October 2018, 16:32
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Re: Dutch Do.24K X-16 lost 1/3/42

Thanks Brian

That was new to me. I presume the whole escape story then has its origin in him?
I also take it his report is available to you, and that he does not mention any other names. Since I am curious why they all tried to reach Ceylon instead of Oz, did he mention the reason for this?

A bit odd that the Dutch are unable to come up with the name of the crew.
The militaries usually keep good track of their staff, even in defeat.

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Old 13th October 2018, 19:18
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Re: Dutch Do.24K X-16 lost 1/3/42

Hi Stig

The story is to be found in Barker's book "Down in the Drink".

No others properly identified. The pilot is mentioned as 'Jan'.

A connection possibly with McCormac's escape story "You'll Die in Singapore"

The mystery remains.

Research on-going!

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Old 14th October 2018, 01:05
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Re: Dutch Do.24K X-16 lost 1/3/42

I see Brian

So all we got is information from other books?
I also noticed why Womack sort of feels his feet are wet. No first hand source here, but quoting from Shores et al's Bloody Shambles. In fact he even speculates all this may refer to another aircraft completely, while the story in itself might be true.

I can of course speculate in theories of mý own, but without any real sources I will not. Any Dutch people around who knows more??

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Re: Dutch Do.24K X-16 lost 1/3/42

https://translate.google.com/transla...D8&prev=search


Dutch page on the Dornier 24 has this to say


Quote:
The X-16 was lost on 1 March 1942 during the demolition work at Tandjong Priok, when the roof of the hangar fell on the aircraft. With this GVT 8 ceased to exist.
(translated from Dutch original)


Earlier discussion here on Tottle:
http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...ercival-TOTTLE

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Old 14th October 2018, 16:28
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Re: Dutch Do.24K X-16 lost 1/3/42

Hi Stig

If one could refer to official sources for every query that arises there would not be any useful need for researchers like us!

Life would be boring!

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PS I co-authored Bloody Shambles.
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