eBAy: Captured german planes

[Mark Proulx]

For this 109, photo reverse appears to say Bizerte.

Mark Proulx

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Originally Posted by Mark Proulx

For this 109, photo reverse appears to say Bizerte.

Mark Proulx

You're correct Mark; alas, we'll never know for sure as Jochen Prien, in his list of 109's found at Bizerte, has no "Schwarzer Winkel kleine 2" registered among the 26 machines listed for Bizerte - Sidi Ahmed airfield.

Cheers
Marc

[Mark Proulx]

Marc:

FWIW, you identify this as a Bf 109 G-6 found at Comiso, Sicily in your Flickr steam...

I believe it to be a G-4, however.

Mark Proulx

[ouidjat]

Originally Posted by Mark Proulx

Marc:

FWIW, you identify this as a Bf 109 G-6 found at Comiso, Sicily in your Flickr steam...

I believe it to be a G-4, however.

Mark Proulx

See JFV 11.2 page 53 and 54. Two II./JG53 Stab machines, side by side, both pictured at La Marsa. G-6s according Jochen Prien.
One "Winkel 2" and this "Winkel 2 -" being one of them.

Franck.

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Mark,

We might well have one of the 10 Bf 109 G-2 or G-4 found at Bizerte - Sidi Ahmed for which no tactical markings were recorded.

Cheers
Marc

[edwest2]

I have seen one photo of several Bf-109s removed from a visible railway tunnel by American troops. They were painted with a mottled pattern near the top, but the photo was taken at an angle where no fuselage markings could be seen. No location was given.

[ouidjat]

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann

Mark,

We might well have one of the 10 Bf 109 G-2 or G-4 found at Bizerte - Sidi Ahmed for which no tactical markings were recorded.

Cheers
Marc

What are you talking about ?
No tactical markings doesn't mean that can have a possible "match" with these "Winkel 2 + - " and "Winkel 2 - + - " ...
Among those "10" we have:
one 6./JG53
one II./JG51
one 2.JG77 ... with a JL marking, not a code but a marking
Left Ausgebrannt and Schrott machines with no indications
...
Left the machine we are talking about have a well readable marking .
...
And you are making a very short cut between "Bizerte" and "On the road between Tunis and Bizerte" !
And it's not exactly the same meaning
...
You don't know the road this caption does indicate, you don't know if the actual possible roads did exist during 1943 and you don't know which one they took between Tunis and Bizerte.
...
"Between Tunis & Bizerte" doesn't mean Bizerte and on the road between them you can find La Marsa, Mateur, Chaouat, Jedeida, Karouba, Cebalat (La Sebala) ... and so on.
All fields where machines have been found - with or without code.

Last, one "Winkel" of II./JG53 have been found at La Marsa and it's the only one we have in the list... and it happens, TWO have been pictured at the same place and one of them was 18031.
And yes, one, <2-+-, is not in the list .. but on pictures.

So, La Marsa.

Cheers!

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[RudiS]

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Regards,
Rudi.

[RudiS]

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Regards,
Rudi