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Old 10th January 2021, 21:52
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RFC Photo Album

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a RFC phto album at:


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original-...YAAOSw9Flf8zGA


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Old 26th February 2021, 20:59
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Re: RFC Photo Album

Hello,


Currently on ebay are two further RFC photo Album at:


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Archive-o...oAAOSwBWZgOTgo


Which includes photos of the following aircraft:


Avro 504A A519

Avro 504J B966 62 TS


Farman S.11 B1960 29 TS?


Farman F.20 A1171 & A1253 28 Squadron

Sopwith Pup A7345 28 Squadron


and the second Album:


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Archive-o...IAAOSwB1RgOTR2


Avro 504K B8681 3 TDS


Sopwith F.1 Camel D6478 + Avro 504K F2601 3 TDS


Royal Aircraft Factory F.E.2b A5508 28 Squadron


Curtiss JN-4 B1926 17 RS?





There are other photos of aircraft either without serials or which I have been unable to decipher. If anyone can make out any of the other serials would they please respond.


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Old 27th February 2021, 00:15
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Re: RFC Photo Album

Clint

Some really nice photos AND, if you scroll down a bit, a seller,
who is quite amazing, since he has actually done some research plus
state what is on the flipside.

Very useful
Need to take a close look tomorr...ehh later today. Past midnight again over here.

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Old 27th February 2021, 15:35
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Re: RFC Photo Album

Clint

Aircraft on picture '5' is interesting.
Looks very much like a DH.5
Only two digits visible, 35 and something in front which (if type is correct) has to be either a 9 or a B, making the serial number A935x or B35x.
Unfortunately such "Sherlockian" (can one use such a word??) deduction immediately runs into problem, since I cannot locate anything that fits....
Funny, it looks so much easier on TV....
Perhaps it is something totally different after all?
Pity the Jenny is not possible to ID, otherwise I agree with your deductions, even if I read the second HF 20 as A1233, but those 3s can be 5s as well in any combination you prefer!

I will start looking at the second album in a sec.
Really nice albums don't you think?

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Old 27th February 2021, 16:36
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Re: RFC Photo Album

Hi Stig,


Yes, I do think that they are nice collections, particularly as ebay appears to contain less RFC related material than say it does for German aircraft. Though, perhaps I'm just not using the right search terms. One to ponder.


Now applying my Fandorin like detective skills.



It is a DH.5, that is one
We can see the numbers 3 & 5, that is two
The two photo collections contain aircraft from 3 TDS, that is three


Therefore I'd go for A9356 which crashed with 3 TDS. Necessarily based on incomplete information, but it appears plausible...


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Old 27th February 2021, 17:26
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Re: RFC Photo Album

Confess I have not read anything about that Russian detective.
Sounds like he is pretty good....

I only have DH.5 references in the usual listings from the net, and it says nothing about the demise of A9356. From your own files or have you spotted something I don't know anything about?
I have not gone through the loss lists just for this one. Is that from where you got it?

The second album was also very nice. Enjoyed to look over the photos more closely.

The Parnall built Avro B8681 is, or at least was a model J (the whole 200 aircraft batch built by P were J models). No doubt some were mod later to Ks but if that is what we see, I cannot say.

The Bristol Fighter is B1106 which is known to have been in use by 59TS at Yatesbury.

The Morane-Saulnier type AC is an incredible enigma.
It was only built in 30 examples and was never supplied to either RFC or RAF and the only reason for it to be in Britain must have been for some unknown (to me) testing purposes.
Even more strange is the tiny serial number on the fin, which the photographer has managed to obscure with an an incredible skill in positioning. Hats off to that!
Looks like it starts with C13 or something which makes no sense unless it, for some reason, is an engine number.
Some of the "Bullets" supplied to RFC had engine numbers which ended with the letter C.
No, I need something better than that, but right now I draw a blank on what it could be....

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Old 27th February 2021, 19:12
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Re: RFC Photo Album

Hi Stig,


Well I got the reference to A9356 from the obvious RFC serial source which does mention a crash while with 3 TDS.


Thanks for the info on the Bristol Fighter.


The Morane Saulnier is intriguing. I have posted to the 1914-18 forum,but I see from J.M. Bruce The Aeroplanes of the Royal Flying Corps that it is the incorrectly serialled B1395 and that it served with 6 TS.


Clint

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Old 27th February 2021, 20:28
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Re: RFC Photo Album

How odd Clint

I downloaded the RFC pages years ago. Don't tell me they have been updated??

The Morane, just can't believe it. A faulty letter!!
My, my, human mistake....
Good to know we have a solution for it!!

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Old 27th February 2021, 20:42
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Re: RFC Photo Album

Hi ,


Yes, I just wished I hadn't followed my usual procedure of posting first and then thinking. Still Bruce doesn't mention 6 TS,so hopefully the kind people at the 1914-18 forum may have further unknown information about its career.


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Old 9th March 2021, 10:39
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Re: RFC Photo Album

Hello,


Currently on ebay are several large photos of RFC aircraft taken at Farnborough at:


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12-large-...gAAOSw7T9gRzsr


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