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Old 2nd May 2020, 11:17
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Hurricane-Turbinlite v Short Stirling May 5th 1942

Hi,

Aware of the previous posts on the subject of Stirling R9313 being shot down over Sussex on May 5th 1942. I am wondering if anyone since then as researched this incident in any depth. The No.1 Squadron ORB completely ignores the incident all together, I have not been able to get a copy of 1455 Flight ORB. Trying to find out if the Turbinlite was used ( time of crash 0430 ) I would have thought it wound have been semi light. Was the duo vectored onto the Stirling, or was it freelance. Lastly was this blue-on-blue ever investigated ?

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Old 2nd May 2020, 16:13
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Re: Hurricane-Turbinlite v Short Stirling May 5th 1942

The incident is described here:

https://books.google.com/books?id=2g...0R9313&f=false

and on page 39 of this: https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/re...uty-operations


Oddly, when you look at 1 Squadron's 541 report for that night it says:

For plane BD770, flown by P.O. F W Murray on a Havoc Co-op flight he took off at 3:20 was back at 4:40 and has nothing to report.
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Re: Hurricane-Turbinlite v Short Stirling May 5th 1942

Thanks for the reply.

Sadly both have the pilot recorded as Sgt Ashworth when he was in fact Squadron Leader Ashworth.

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Re: Hurricane-Turbinlite v Short Stirling May 5th 1942

I have found this with other such incidents where it has not been mentioned in the F540
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Re: Hurricane-Turbinlite v Short Stirling May 5th 1942

In most cases such incidents were covered up by the RAF, and there are only few mentions of them.
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Re: Hurricane-Turbinlite v Short Stirling May 5th 1942

Here's what the Form 540 for 1455 Flt/534 Squadron has to say:

"Tangmere, 4.5.42: On this Flight's first time in operations, three night sorties were carried out; on one of these the satellite aircraft of No. 1 Squadron (pilot P/O Murray) accompanying this Flight's Turbinlite (pilot S/Ldr Budd) shot down a Stirling aircraft,
the crew of which baled out and were unhurt."

There is no Form 541 for the unit for this period and I've found no subsequent mention in the F540 of any later investigation or CoI.

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