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Missing F-5, late March, 1945
Hello,
Am working on the loss of an F-5 . Date given as 26th March 1945. MACR 13370. Miss Mary 44-24486. Searched through the KU Reports and found Nil. However at the end of the list for the March 45 list there appears the following - 26.3.45 Time which looks to be 04.55hrs( the aircraft took off around 06.00 according to the MACR. Could this be due to the time difference between the enemy and allies? Where an a/c serial would usually be is what looks like either "71" or "77" which could be an aircraft in Squadron number. This is followed by a place name which I could not make out and Country Austria. All that is followed by the following - AV.2291/45. So what does the AV.2291/45 refer to, if some kind of document just where would it be found ? Hope that this can be resolved. Thanks in advance. Alex |
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Re: Missing F-5, late March, 1945
see also http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?p=336339
but I understand that the AV reports are only on deceased crew. Pantsch was POW and survived, I think. And this mentioned AV 2291/45 gives "Brookmann, William" [correct: 'Brookman, Wilburn'] as fallen on 26.03.1945 at "Strass/Steiermark". Strass/Steiermark here: https://www.google.com/maps/place/84...er=0&entry=ttu Brookman is MACR # 13070 crash date 19.03.1945 at 8472 Straß in Steiermark (Austria) death date 26.03.1945 at 8472 Straß in Steiermark (Austria) P-38 Lightning 82 Fighter Group 95 Fighter Squadron Brookman Wilburn R. 1st Lt O-711936 Last edited by FrankieS; 13th April 2024 at 14:24. |
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Re: Missing F-5, late March, 1945
My grateful thanks Gentlemen for your swift replies.
I had no idea of the AV files, never came across them before. And as you now know my search was indeed about Pansch. He did indeed survive the war. But his actual crash site has it seems, never actually been found. All the very best Alex |
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Pansch crashsite in the Innsbruck area of Wippital/Schonberg/Stubaital.
Brookman was in the Graz area East of the river Mur in the District of Leibnitz at Strass/Steiermark. |
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Hi Frankie, all I see is a map showing my town ?
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Re: Missing F-5, late March, 1945
oh, sorry, dear Alex.
for you it will anyway be nothing new. you could enter into https://www.google.com/maps?authuser=0 "Wipptal, Österreich" bye Frank |
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Re: Missing F-5, late March, 1945
No problem, If you take the map references and use the correct N and E, if I am right the Wippital/Schonberg/Stubaital falls in that area. So must be somewhere in that area.
Unless post WW2 some recovery Unit removed the wreckage. I have no idea which unit it could be, French, British or US. Even perhaps an Austrian/ex Luftwaffe Unit ??? Also I would like to confirm that the reference AV.2291/45 was in relation to MACR 13070, crash date 19.03.1945 at 8472 Straß in Steiermark (Austria) death date 26.03.1945 at 8472 Straß in Steiermark (Austria) P-38 Lightning 82 Fighter Group 95 Fighter Squadron Brookman Wilburn R. 1st Lt O-711936. It had nothing to do with Pansch MACR 13370, which was my original assumption. Alex |
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