Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces

Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the German Luftwaffe and the Air Forces of its Allies.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 13th January 2024, 00:42
Kapper Kapper is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 145
Kapper is on a distinguished road
Re: Leutnant "Munsch" erg./EKDO 25

Johannes,
There are documents (with pages missing), awards and photos of the EKdd25 Fick on the Wehrmacht Awards Forum:

https://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/for...k#post12541312
(you need to be a member to access the forum)

Though no unit listing is in the documents, from the group and what the owner of the collection states, I could establish the following:

Gunter FICK (DOB 14.11.14 Husum/Schonwalde) (Document entry)
28.02.39 Uffz awarded Flugzeugfuhrerabzichen (award document)
01.09.40 promoted Fw (entry promotion page)
14.12.40 Fw awarded KVK mit S II Klasse (award document)
01.02.42 promoted Ofw (entry promotion page)
06.07.43 Ofw Ekdo I./JG1 awarded EK II (award document)
07.04.44 Ofw Ekdo 25 awarded FFSiB (award document)
16.06.44 Ofw Ekdo 25 awarded EK I (award document)
04.02.45 award of DKG (awards page in document - entry a discussion point in the forum (questionable entry))
01.04.45 promoted KO Ant (entry promotion page)
20.04.45 promoted Ltn (entry promotion page)
survived war (statement of document owner from son of Gunther Fick)
~1957 deceased (calculation from ages in above statement – forum messages dated 2021. Forum owner given documents by Son who was 77 years old, thus born around 1944 and stated father died when son was 13 therefore adds up to sometime around 1957- not an exact science but an indicator)

From the above, it definitely links the JG1 Fink with the EKdo Fink with the award of the EKII with Ekdo I stated on award (likely for the 22.03.43 claim) and the award of the EK I with EKdo25 stated on award (likely for the claims mentioned here) – it makes sense.

Also, he definitely is not the JG4 or JG76 Fink – different birth date, wasn’t promoted Ltn until 20.04.45 and survived the war.

Therefore 2 different people possibly 3.

Regards

Craig…
__________________
There is always three sides to an argument, Your's, Theirs and the Truth. Sometimes the Truth is hard to find.

Last edited by Kapper; 13th January 2024 at 00:45. Reason: spelling correction
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 13th January 2024, 05:45
Johannes Johannes is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,354
Johannes has a spectacular aura aboutJohannes has a spectacular aura about
Re: Leutnant "Munsch" erg./EKDO 25

Hi Leo and Craig

Many thanks.

Great piece of work. There must be three Günther Fick's then, the JG 76 one cannot be that of JG4.

One question is what did D.O.B 14th November 1914 do after June 1944. DKiG announcements became clumped together towards end of 1944, yet their documentation show exact date.

Kind regards

Johannes
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 14th January 2024, 09:28
Kapper Kapper is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 145
Kapper is on a distinguished road
Re: Leutnant "Munsch" erg./EKDO 25

Johannes

Nothing more on units though could have been in JG400/JG7 as he was trained on the Me163 & Me262. Several pilots moved from JG400 to JG7 late in the war.

wrt the DKiG there was a debate as to the authenticity of the entry - no other evidence presented that he was awarded the DKiG.

Regards,

Craig...
__________________
There is always three sides to an argument, Your's, Theirs and the Truth. Sometimes the Truth is hard to find.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 14th January 2024, 11:06
Johannes Johannes is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,354
Johannes has a spectacular aura aboutJohannes has a spectacular aura about
Re: Leutnant "Munsch" erg./EKDO 25

Hi Craig

Regarding the DKiG there are a couple of pilots visibly wearing this oversized decoration not on offical list, one I remember......Hermann Graf.

Kind regards

Johannes
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Luftwaffe losses in the east 20-30.01.1945 AreKal Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 36 20th April 2021 14:28
Questions About Do-18, Norway, 25 April 1940 SteveR Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 2 8th August 2019 15:45
A certain Leutnant D., mentioned by Norbert Hannig Teresa Maria Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 6 19th January 2018 13:51
List of the Legion condor pilots martin66 Pre-WW2 Military and Naval Aviation 15 29th December 2016 12:41
Zerstorer Staffel Er. Kdo 25 Peter Kassak Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 7 8th April 2014 21:37


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 19:55.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net