War Diaries of Helmut Lipfert

[Oberst]

Hello,

I was wondering if anybody has this book? If so, if theres any fotos/references to Me 109G-10's could you please list them here. Many thanks in advance =)

[yogybär]

Afaik, there is only two pictures from a "fitness event" with the tail section of a 109 with small tailwheel, dated ca. October 1944.

[kaki3152]

BTW, Great book. One of the best Luftwaffe pilot memoirs, told honestly and straight forwardly from a fighter pilot view's point, by a pilot that was clearly one of the great fighter pilots in the East.

[Jim P.]

The book is stilll listed in Schiffer's catalog.

[Oberst]

Originally Posted by yogybär

Afaik, there is only two pictures from a "fitness event" with the tail section of a 109 with small tailwheel, dated ca. October 1944.

Do you remember if its the tall or short tail? When did the first WNF G-10's were delivered? Thanks.

BTW,

excellent work with TD.. looking foward to v4.12!

Have you seen my 'Rosemarie' on A&A?

[Leo Etgen]

Hello Oberst

According to Messerschmitt Bf 109 G-10/U4 by JaPo the first Bf 109 G-10 fighters were manufactured by Erla in September 1944 with Regensburg building 121 of this type between October 1944 and January 1945. Wiener Neustädter Flugzeugwerke began manufacturing the Bf 109 G-10 in December 1944. I hope this information is accurate and helpful.

Horrido!

Leo

[Oberst]

Very helpful Leo! I'm trying to determine when Lipfert recieved his G-10, I'm pretty sure its a WNF G-10/U4 if he got it when he was with II./JG 51. Not sure of the date that would be though.. late 1944 maybe?

[udf_00]

P141.
17 Oct 1944 :
"At this time I received a a Bf 109 armed with a 30mm cannon,..."

PP.141-43
First claims with it on 23 Oct 44.

JG 52.

[Andrew Arthy]

Hi,

II./J.G. 52 took its first Bf 109 G-10s on strength in December 1944, and these were G-10/U4s. In October 1944 it took on strength the Bf 109 G-14. See this page: http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/biijg52.html

Cheers,
Andrew A.

Air War Publications - www.airwarpublications.com

[Oberst]

This is interesting. The same source shows that II./JG 51 did NOT recieve any G-10's, only G-14/AS in Oct/Nov/Dec 1944.

ME 109G-10 'White 11 + -' "Rosemarie" of II./JG 52 shows the painted over gruppe II mark of II./JG 51.

How can this be if II./JG 51 had no G-10? Did 'Rosemarie' start out with JG52, went to II./JG 51 then return to II./JG 52?

Perplexing...