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Old 5th April 2017, 07:29
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Re: Top ace of the calendar year

Hi Guys

Nice to see lots of interest. I take on board that the other Staffels mights be doing less strenuous tasks. Actually looking at the whole Staffel's claims it was just all about Lang. Hoffmann was injured in September 1943, as soon as he returns to combat the Lang/Hoffmann super claiming starts, and continues until they are presumably on leave after the Ritterkreuz/DKiG awards. Moreover in Hannig's book he does state Lang would choice just one wingman, when it's Hannig Lang's claims are noticeable few, when Hoffmann both claim huge numbers. Not sure about Alfred Groß, but guess we should give him the benefit of the doubt!

So not(in my opinion) just general "overclaiming", as usual a couple of guys bucking the system.

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Old 5th April 2017, 15:00
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Hello Johannes,

was it sufficient during that period to provide one eye witness for claim confirmation ?

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Old 6th April 2017, 09:29
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Hi Michael

Almost all claims sheets I have viewed have but a single witness, a little story about the attack, and information about ammunition used, but yes one witness.

Most likely is that these guys were opportunists. But I know Lang took Hoffmann to 9./JG 54 with him. III./JG 54 generally made accurate claims, but with Hoffmann as his wingman I assume the same thing continued, though more likely the opportunity to do so was less often due to larger groups flying together.

Again not so sure about Groß, but he was Lang's wingman at JG 26. This Geschwader was generally very accurate in it's claims, though I do recount a former JG 2 pilot and Ritterkreuzträger continuing his bad habits with them.

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Re: Top ace of the calendar year

Hello Johannes,

thanks for your post.
Cross-checking I found Adolf Galland's 1940 score rather to be 57, not 58, unless his 20May1940 claim was confirmed after 1941, was it ?

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