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Old 9th May 2017, 10:25
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Re: Ivan Shamanov

Good morning Gabor,

you're probably right.
Are there any further A-20 aces known to you ?

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Old 9th May 2017, 13:38
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Nope, - but it does not mean anything.
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Old 9th May 2017, 19:01
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Michael,
06/13/1943 - Crew of Krapiva (on B-25) counted two twin-engined aircraft (Kostyushin and Kirilenko).
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Old 12th May 2017, 06:03
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Re: Ivan Shamanov

Good morning Kirill & Gabor,

thanks for the hint.
Have you ever seen a photo of Krapiva ?

Have a nice Friday,

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Old 12th May 2017, 12:08
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Good morning Kirill & Gabor,

thanks for the hint.
Have you ever seen a photo of Krapiva ?

Have a nice Friday,

Michael
http://allaces.ru/p/people.php?id=00000004585
http://www.polkmoskva.ru/upload/ft/t...40h615auto.jpg
http://www.polkmoskva.ru/upload/ft/t...40h615auto.jpg
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Re: Ivan Shamanov

Good afternoon Kirill,

hope you had a good weekend.
Thanks a lot for the links to the cool photos.
Somehow my BING web translator doesn't work.
Does the Krapiva biography on allaces.ru say something about his official score ?

All the best to you,

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Old 9th July 2017, 20:00
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Re: Ivan Shamanov

Good evening,

I'm still interested in the official Krapiva score.
Also in possible Soviet B-25 aces and notable American A-20 pilots.

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Good evening,

I'm still interested in the official Krapiva score.

Cheers,

Michael
Michael,
I wrote earlier the 'requests' list of the crew of Krapiva. He was officially credited only knocked them personally (as a pilot) - 3 claims.
But I have not found information about the downed aircraft in November 1944.
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Re: Ivan Shamanov

Hello Kirill,

hope you're doing fine.

thus, the list of the Krapiva crew kills would look similar to this one, wouldn't it ?
  1. 13.06.1943 crew
  2. 13.06.1943 crew
  3. 18.06.1944 Krapiva
  4. 24-25.07.1944 crew
  5. 16-17.09.1944 Krapiva
  6. 19.09.1944 Krapiva+crew
  7. Nov 44 ???
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Old 11th July 2017, 15:26
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Michael Hi,
I think so:
13.06.1943 crew - Kostyushin
13.06.1943 crew - Kirilenko
18.06.1944 Krapiva (airfield Slonim) - one
27/28.06.1944 - two planes on the ground (not counted as aerial victories)
24-25.07.1944 crew - navigator (?).
16-17.09.1944 Krapiva (airfield Budapesht) - two
19.09.1944 crew - Kulbatskiy
?? Nov 1944 – Krapiva (?) – three (?)

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