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Old 21st October 2016, 08:47
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Re: FAA total

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Old 21st October 2016, 15:12
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Re: FAA total

I have claims for Albacores on July 30, 1941 at Kirkenes as follows, all of 827 Sqn:

1 Me 110 probable and one Ju 87 damaged, by Lt John Curwen Reid + LtCdr James Andrew Stewart-Moore (obs) + PO Herbert John Lambert (gunner) in "4A" = N4330

One Ju 87 destroyed by Lt John Nigel Ball + Lt Bernard James Prendergast (obs) + PO A E Sweet (gunner) in "4K" = N4307

One Me 109 probable by SubLt Richard Bruce Park + SubLt Oswald Gordon Weston Hutchinson + L/Air Ernest Percival Fabien (gunner) in "4P" (Sturtivant in FAA Aircraft says 4L = N4348)

The only other Albacore claim I have is for an unknown crew on June 21, 1940 for a Me 109 damaged at Willemsoord Harbour by 826 Sqn. I think I spotted something on this in FAA Aircraft.

Does anyone have Sweet's full name? And should the officers be Lt(A) and LtCdr(A) and SubLt(A) ?

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Old 21st October 2016, 16:54
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Re: FAA total

Hello
the Bf 110 was 110 E-2 WNr. 4394, LN+DR, I./JG 77 (this is the unit designation given by Valtonen, Manninen in his article on the attack in Suomen Ilmailuhistoriallinen Lehti 2/2012 gives it as Z./JG 77, might also be 1.(Z.)/JG 77, the designations of the fighter and zerstörer units up north were in constant fluctuation in 1941 so it is difficult to give a firm answer without spending time to check various sources). The crew Lt. Karl-Friedrich Schlossstein and his gunner Gefr Heinz Gutsche were rescued onto the artillery training ship (Artillerieschulschiff) Bremse. And as I wrote earlier, according to the crew the Bf 110 was shot down by an Albacore rear gunner whose fire hit the both engines igniting them.

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Old 21st October 2016, 17:10
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Re: FAA total

Had a quick look in the Navy List April 1942 and no (A) for Reid or Hutchinson, but (A) for Park. The others weren't in the list for 827 Sqn by that stage.
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Old 21st October 2016, 18:39
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Re: FAA total

Frank,

Thanks for the claims details. Any times for the claims?

From the Navy List for August 1941:

Ball Lt.(A) RN
Hutchinson ASL(A) RNVR (Acting Sub-Lt.)
Park Sub-Lt.(A) RN
Prendergast Lt. RN
Reed (not Reid) Lt. RN
Stewart-Moore Lt.Cdr. RN

Often I find that regular RN officer aircrew did not have the (A) appended to their ranks. Most likely the petty officers would be designated PO(A) as well.

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Old 31st October 2016, 23:28
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Re: FAA total

There is a book "Seafire the Spitfire that went to sea" which has a list of Seafire claims ect. I have posted them on this site some time ago with some match ups with known enemy losses.
Osprey has a book on FAA aces, I think their books on Wildcat, Hellcat and Corsair aces may have the FAA claims.
C Shores books also have many of the FAAs claims
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Old 14th May 2017, 19:44
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Re: FAA total

Total Sea Hurricane accepted claims would have been ~50:
~7 CAM ship claims
~1 claims during Kirkenes and Petsamo, IIRC.
~28+ claims during HARPOON and PEDESTAL
~3+ claims during PQ18
~3 claims from Nairana in 1944
~5 claims during TORCH
and undoubtedly others.
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Old 14th May 2017, 21:11
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Re: FAA total

Sounds good Duncan, I hadn't realised they claimed so many...do claims with 803/806 RNFS count? I realise they are Hurricanes rather than Sea Hurricanes but perhaps following the idea that Seafires in the Normandy landings were effectively Spitfire V, and Martlet claims with RNFS/805?

I have 5 with PQ18 but think that is too high, and just 2 with 835 in 1944 (one shared with two pilots).

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p.s. FAA claims with RAF be about 30 or so?
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Old 14th May 2017, 21:12
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Just a thought but CAM claims are surely RAF except for one?
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Old 15th May 2017, 04:54
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Just a thought but CAM claims are surely RAF except for one?
The CAM claims were by ship launched Sea Hurricane 1As, even if most of the pilots were RAF.
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