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Old 5th September 2012, 13:38
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Re: JG 52 victories

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Oblt. Gerhard Barkhorn 4./JG52 LaGG-3 75 463 10:45
Uffz Werner Quast 4./JG52 LaGG-3 75 464 10:47

269 IAP
LaGG-3 (#2742) pilot Sokolov
LaGG-3 pilot Malyshev
(Sorry, only have the last names). LaGG-3 (#2742) the remains were recovered in the past few years.)
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Re: JG 52 victories

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Could you point out the source of this info from Soviet side?
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Re: JG 52 victories

Please keep them coming....
This is a very interesting thread.
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Old 9th September 2012, 23:32
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Re: JG 52 victories

13Jun43 07:37 25 251 (Nikolaev region) at 3000 m
7./JG 52 Oblt. Walter Krupinski claimed a "Boston"

Lost on a reconn. mission was A-20 Boston (#23258) 30 ORAP ChF flown by Ml.Lt. Evgeniy Vasilevich Snegov who was KIA along with his crew in the Nikolaev region.
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Old 13th September 2012, 18:01
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Re: JG 52 victories

What is known of Lipfert's opponents? I have always been fascinated by his war diary and would love to know who "the other guys" were
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http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/archiv...hp?t-1652.html
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Old 14th September 2012, 16:29
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Re: JG 52 victories

The book by Vlad Antipov "Dragons on bird wings" listed for the 6May44 that Lipfert shot down a U-2 of the 402 IAP killing Lt. Anatoliy Filonov and Semen Denisov over the Black Sea while they were looking for a downed pilot from their unit. Andrey Kuznetsov has enough information probably to write a book on the air war during the Kerch landing in 1943 but unforunately seems to be tied up on another project. Of course it would probably be best to wait to JFV 12/II came out to see if any new information showed up. Nikita Egorov's book would be the best bet for JG 52 at Stalingrad that's coming out this year.
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Re: JG 52 victories

Several points:
  • Thanks Joerg, I had seen the earlier post about Lipfert's claim against the Li-2, it corrects the info in his war diary that makes it look like he downed a Boston in that instance. In fact, that original post had put the idea in my head that some forum contributers might have info to share on others among his opponents.
  • Are the books mentioned available/going to become available in English?
  • Does anyone else have info to share on this fascinating subject?
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Re: JG 52 victories

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wait to JFV 12/II came out to see if any new information showed up.
Afaik, sadly Mr. Prien does not check any claims for losses on th enemy side. At least he did not do this in the books I own.
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Old 17th September 2012, 14:11
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Re: JG 52 victories

Nick, the book by Nikita Egorov is already on Amazon.com for pre-order and yes it's in English.

No, Dr. Prien does not check claims in his books but he does provide correct claims for the types and locations placed by the pilots at the time (it helps to have a team backing you on your work). I've found several so far in JFV 12/I that were completely different then Tony Woods list and a lot that were not even listed.
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