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Old 20th June 2012, 20:56
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StaKas 2./JG77 ?

Could somebody list the StaKas of 2./JG77 in the period of 1940 more or less?
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Old 20th June 2012, 23:54
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Staffelkapitäne of 2./JG 77

Hello Fran

I have the following:

Oberleutnant Hannes Trautloft from 1 September 1939, Oberleutnant Ekkehard Priebe from 19 September 1939 and Oberleutnant Franz Hahn from 31 August 1940. I./JG 77 was redesignated IV./JG 51 on 21 November 1940.

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Old 21st June 2012, 21:11
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Re: StaKas 2./JG77 ?

Thanks Leo;
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Old 24th June 2012, 21:17
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Re: StaKas 2./JG77 ?

Now I have a doubt; did wear the 2./JG77 the top hat emblem in a white circle at the rear in the fuse? other sources says I./LG2
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Re: StaKas 2./JG77 ?

Hello Fran

Both are correct, because I(J)/LG2 was redesignated I/JG77 at the beginning of 1942.
This is a different I/JG77, the third one. As Leo says, the first one was at that time IV/JG51 and the second I/JG77, created in 1941 at Norway was redesignated I/JG5 in 1942.

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Old 25th June 2012, 01:05
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Re: StaKas 2./JG77 ?

The attached photo depics a Bf109E-3 so the period I am referring to is about 1940. What unit sported the top hat at that time??

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Old 25th June 2012, 01:50
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2.(J)/LG 2

Hello Fran

It appears that this photograph may depict fighters of 2.(J)/LG 2. I have read that this unit contained numerous former members of the Legion Conder and that its emblem was based upon that of 2./J 88. Here are two further photographs of fighters of 2.(J)/LG 2.

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Old 25th June 2012, 11:07
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Re: StaKas 2./JG77 ?

Hi Fran & Leo

I also have this image, not certain if this is an orginal colour or colourised photo.

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Old 25th June 2012, 15:04
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Re: StaKas 2./JG77 ?

It is the same plane I posted in the same flight so has been colorized. Pictures are stills from b/w IWM footage.
The motto painted in the nose in spanish language suggest the pilot was a L.Condor veteran. Probably Herbert Ihlefeld before being appointed staffelkapitan? other candidates?

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I also have this image, not certain if this is an orginal colour or colourised photo.

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Old 27th June 2012, 01:37
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Re: StaKas 2./JG77 ?

Published in LW in Focus #2 is a rather significant transcription of the Bestandsliste/aircraft assignments from 2.(J) and 3.(J)/LG 2 from March-40. Depending upon the date of the photo, much of this information was still valid into the summer of 1940. Sorry, they are out of order due to the way they popped up from the sorting by date of my db. 'Black 11' is among them.
Bf 109E-1, 3383, Reserve, , I.(J), 3.(J), LG 2, gelbe, 15 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-1, 3540, Jaeger, Oblt. Hans-Erwin, , I.(J), 2.(J), LG 2, schwarzes, 5 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-1, 3376, Schiller, Uffz., , I.(J), 2.(J), LG 2, schwarzes, 14 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-1, 4078, Lenz, Ltn. Ludwig, , I.(J), 3.(J), LG 2, gelbe, 3 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-1, 3318, Görbing, Fw. Kurt, , I.(J), 2.(J), LG 2, schwarzes, 13 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-1, 0691, Schmitz, Uffz., , I.(J), 2.(J), LG 2, schwarzes, 8 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 5071, ./., , I.(J), 2.(J), LG 2, schwarzes, 4 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 0710, Graner, Oblt. Georg, , I.(J), 3.(J), LG 2, gelbe, 1 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Stkp. Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 0953, Wangerov, Oblt. Friedrich von, , I.(J), 2.(J), LG 2, schwarzes, 1 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Stkp. Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 0681, Braukmann, Uffz. Helmut, , I., 3.(J), LG 2, gelbe, 4 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 703, MERTENS, Ltn. Helmut, , I.(J), 2.(J), LG 2, schwarzes, 12 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 1354, Steinbach, Ofw., , I.(J), 3.(J), LG 2, gelbe, 5 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 1142, Striberny, Ltn. Albert, , I.(J), 3.(J), LG 2, gelbe, 10 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 1136, Straznicky, Ltn. Erwin, , I.(J), 3.(J), LG 2, gelbe, 9 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 0687, Reserve, , I.(J), 3.(J), LG 2, gelbe, 7 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 1355, Stab?, , I.(J), 2.(J), LG 2, schwarzes, 3 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 1168, Krause, Ofw. Siegfried, , I.(J), 3.(J), LG 2, gelbe, 8 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 0723, CLAUSEN, Ofw. Erwin, , I.(J), 3.(J), LG 2, gelbe, 6 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 0699, Staege, Ofw. Hermann, , I.(J), 2.(J), LG 2, schwarzes, 11 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, II, p.502 photo; LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 3545, Rauhut, Gefr. Herbert, , I.(J), 3.(J), LG 2, gelbe, 11 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 1235, Tismar, Ltn. Werner, , I.(J), 2.(J), LG 2, schwarzes, 2 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 1288, Perthes, Ltn. Hasso von, , I.(J), 3.(J), LG 2, gelbe, 2 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-3, 0688, Schott, Ofw. Georg, , I.(J), 2.(J), LG 2, schwarzes, 6 +, , , 20-Mar-40, Bestandsliste from this date., , Lfl.2/Sitzkrieg, LW im Focus #2, p.2, , Fl.Pl. Neumünster, -, F, , ,
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