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Old 7th November 2018, 13:43
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Question about Lfl.6 stregth reports 1945

Hello,


what means the data in form of "xx-xx-xx-xx" in the "Besatzungen" (Crews) column in Lfl.6 stregth reports 1945?


For example II./SG1 18:00 4.Feb.1945: 35-34-29-1


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Old 9th November 2018, 22:08
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Re: Question about Lfl.6 stregth reports 1945

I believe the following;

35 = Ist-Bestand (number of pilots)
34 = Einsatzbereit (operational fit)
29 = Verfügbar (available, some pilots were away from the unit)
1 = not sure about the last column.....Bedingt Verfügbar (?)

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Old 10th November 2018, 13:05
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Re: Question about Lfl.6 stregth reports 1945

Thank you, John!


So, only 4th column still unclear.


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Old 11th November 2018, 03:32
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Re: Question about Lfl.6 stregth reports 1945

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Thank you, John!


So, only 4th column still unclear.


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Andrey
A straight translation might be "conditionally available".
So the aircraft is available but subject to flying or mission conditions?
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Old 11th November 2018, 19:14
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Re: Question about Lfl.6 stregth reports 1945

This is only about crew, not about aircraft
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Old 11th November 2018, 20:55
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Re: Question about Lfl.6 stregth reports 1945

I think that the first column means Sollstärke (authorized strength) and the second column Iststärke (actual strength), so the third column could mean Einsatzbereit
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Old 11th November 2018, 21:52
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Re: Question about Lfl.6 stregth reports 1945

Flugzeugführer:

1st: Soll (authorized strength)
2nd: Ist (actual strength)
3rd: Einsatzbereit (combat ready)
4th: Bedingt Einsatzbereit (conditional combat ready)


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Old 11th November 2018, 23:00
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Re: Question about Lfl.6 stregth reports 1945

Norbert/Andrei,

Soll-Stärke is of course normally listed but not in the specific Lfl. 6 reports Andrey is referring to.

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Old 11th November 2018, 23:20
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Re: Question about Lfl.6 stregth reports 1945

Just a quick query.

I thought that 3rd: Einsatzbereit (combat ready) + 4th: Bedingt Einsatzbereit (conditional combat ready) equals 2nd: Ist (actual strength). However, from the LW strength report of 13 April 1945 (widely circulated), that is apparently not necessarily the case.

So, who are these pilots covered under the 4th: Bedingt Einsatzbereit? Replacement pilots?

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Old 12th November 2018, 00:38
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Re: Question about Lfl.6 stregth reports 1945

We are drifting of topic here imho....the Strength Reports of Lfl.6 KTB that Andrey is referring to in his initial post/question do NOT list SOLL-Stärken, neither for a/c or for personnel.

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