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Old 25th September 2018, 13:49
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Kembs Raid Oct 7,1944 Dumbusters

Would like to follow up an older thread due some new evidences . I live some few miles away from event's location and soon there wll be a memorial
dedicated to those RAF aircrews lost on that mission . Therefore would like to address some questions :

1. At which British Museum ( please specify ) is Sqn Ldr Drew Rothwell Cullen Wyness wreck exhibited ? According information from numerous sources the remains were brought in 1946 from France to UK then taken to Royal Aircraft Est .Farnborough .

2. Hugo Gruenner Kreisleiter of Loerrach and Gestapo agent Erich Meissner who murdered four of the crew incl.Sqn Ldr Wyness and Bruce Hosie after having brought them to Bad Bellingen for interrogation have been convicted in 1946 to death .

3. The aircraft was ditched by the crew mid of Rhine River (somewhere near Bad Bellingen or futher North near Chalampe ) on France /German border . Five of the crew boarded the life raft which drifted toward German side of the Rhine .While having noticed German soldiers preparing a boat on the German bank one crew member jummped out of the dinghy and swam to the French side . Also the Germans captured only 4 crew members an other may have reached Nifer and two other may have either evaded also executed elsewhere or died on the wreck . Who were they and is there any final info about them . The four crew members were executed on Rhine River bank by Gruener however other cite German soldiers along with Gruenner and Meissner by orders of Gauleiter Wagner .

4. While Hugo Gruener and Erich Meissner were condamned to death , Gruenner escaped the British camp and may have settled in Argentina a place where an other
family member resided overthere , then declared as deceased by his in family only in 1977. Any additional info will be welcomed .

5. As into Howard's crew , except the pilot are there any other crew photos available ?

6. As into the P-51's Polish escort were they also based at Woodhall Spa AB ?


7. Any info on why the raid was named "Kembs Dum raid " by RAF ? The Kembs dum was 10Km further North
in Alsace France and still there , the mission was in fact against Maerkt dum at Weil Am Rhein , Germany just at
the Swiss border .


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