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Old 17th November 2018, 04:03
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Peter Crump's Opponents

Peter Crump


Victories:

1st claim
27.8.42/1350
Spitfire VB
W of Berck sur Mer
350 sqn. 3 losses: BM297 of P/O Henri A Picard, POW and murdered after the Great Escape. AB912 of P/O Martin Joseph Julien Charlier, KIA and 1 other Cat. B damaged

2nd claim
6.12.42/1242
Spitfire IX
15km NW of Calais
BS346 of 122 sqn. P/O T L Parker KIA

Unconfirmed claim
12.12.42/1130
Spitfire IX
20km N of Dieppe
331 sqn RNAF. Two losses: BS469/FN-V Capt S Sem KIA and BS389/FN-S of 2/Lt O R Malm baled out and rescued by fishing boat
(Heinz Gomann inflicted the other loss, Wutz Galland destroyed Spitfire from 421 sqn RCAF in the engagement)
Believe at least one of the timings of Crump or Gomann’s claims must be in error somehow (sortie went from 1238 - 1545BT

3rd and 4th claims
23.1.43/1345 and 1346
2 x Mustang Is
4-5km S of Montreuil @ low altitude (allied sources give location as Berck-Stella)
168 sqn, 34 Wing. Two losses: AG578 of F/O Bernard Wilson Kearney (Australian) and AG510 of F/O I G Grant. Both MIA-KIA

Unconfirmed claim
26.1.43/1245
Spitfire IX
5km N of Dunkirk
64 and 306 sqn. 64 sqn lost BS278 of Sgt. G A McKoy RNZAF KIA (into sea off St. Omer), 306 sqn lost BS241 of W/C S Janus POW and BS459 of W/O W Jasinski KIA - actually lost in a collision.
(Wutz Galland claimed as well)

Unconfirmed claim
3.2.43/1100
Spitfire VB
5km NE of Calais
308 "Torun" sqn. Four losses: BL977 of F/L Tadeusz Koc evaded, W3657 of F/O J Zbienzchowski POW, AD549 of F/O J Wiejski KIA and BL412 of F/S J Okroj POW
(Versus 8 claims, rightfully not confirmed therefore)

Unconfirmed Claim
13.2.43/1030
Spitfire
near Watten
485 sqn, RNZAF. Four losses: EP107 of F/O A R Robson POW, BM482 of F/O I A C Grant KIA, EP115 of Sgt R J Steed plus one other (serial and pilot not known) was damaged
OR:
610 "County of Chester" sqn: Mk V EN896 of F/O J T Skibinski (Polish), evaded and awarded an MBE

5th claim
17.2.43/1049
Spitfire HF VI
1km W of Guines or 1km W of Cap Gris Nez @ 1600m
124 "Baroda" sqn. Losses include: AB530 of F/L Frederick Gerald Hudson Chalk DFC KIA, AB498 of F/O B R Murphy evaded via Gibraltar and returned Aug 43, AB533 of P/O Bernard John Hull DFM KIA and BR571 of Sgt. Bruce McKenzie Hirstisch RNZAF KIA (Chalk is generally attributed to Glunz. Hoppe and Meyer also claimed)

6th claim
27.2.43/1432
Spitfire IX
50-60km NNW of Dunkirk @ 7800m
BS172 of 403 sqn RCAF. F/L Patrick Terrence O'Leary baled out but KIA
(Paul Fritsch claimed as well, slight overclaiming)

Unconfirmed claim
8.3.43/1400
B-24D-15-CO Liberator HSS
N of Rouen
This one said to be 41-23988/E "Emmy Lou" of 67th BS, 44th BG. 1/Lt. Bob W Blaine and crew all KIA except one man POW (legitimate victory therefore, but confirmation awarded to Roth)

7th claim
24.3.43/1015
Spitfire VB
10km NNW of Cap Gris Nez @ 600m
W3425 of 91 "Nigeria" sqn. F/O Raymond Gustave Hector de Hasse (Belgian) KIA

Unconfirmed claim
31.3.43/1245
B-17F-27-BO Flying Fortress HSS
Thames Estuary
Legitimate victory: 41-24617/WF-J "Southern Comfort" of 364th BS, 305th BG. Crew of Capt. Hugh G Ashcraft all baled out over England but one man fell out of parachute. Crashed Wickham Bishops

8th claim
21.4.43/1217
Spitfire VC
2km S of Boismont @ low altitude
EE634 of 610 "county of Chester" sqn. Sgt. Ronald Bertram McPherson KIA

Unconfirmed claim
14.5.43/1330
B-17F-25-DL Flying Fortress
10km NW of Vlissingen
Sternberg claimed as well. Both pilots apparently shot at 42-3115/OE- of 335th BS, 95th BG. Crashed on North Beveland Isle. Lt. James E McKinley and crew all KIA. (Actually only damaged and finished off later by Otto Bach of JG 1)

Unconfirmed claim
18.5.43/1500
Spitfire
6km SE of Dieppe
No known losses, date is believed to be wrong (admin error)

Unconfirmed claim
16.6.43/0700
Spitfire
mid-Channel
91 "Nigeria" sqn. Overclaiming, only two losses: EN627 of F/O V P R Seydel (Belgian) WIA and baled out and MB835 of Sgt. Willie Mitchell KIA
(versus four claims, rightly unconfirmed)

9th claim
20.6.43/1334
Spitfire IX
near Vielles les Blequin @ 7000m
403 sqn RCAF. Three losses: LZ899 of P/O Frank Cooper McWilliams, BR637 of P/O John Charles Elliot and BS383 of Sgt. K D Windsor. All KIA
(versus three claims in total, legitimate claim, therefore)

Unconfirmed claim
22.6.43/0930
B-17 Flying Fortress
5km NW of Vlissingen
381st or 384th BG. 547th BS, 384th BG lost B-17F-25-VE 42-5853 "Salvage Queen". 545th BS of same unit lost B-17F-85-BO 42-30076. 42-3226 "Linda Mary" of 533rd BS, 381st BG, crashlanded at North Foreland
(A couple of additional losses in the engagement were attributable to other pilots)

10th claim
26.6.43/1910
P-47 Thunderbolt
15-20km NW of Somme Estuary @ 300m
56th FG, four shot down into channel, 1 off English coast, 7 damaged seriously including two scrapped (including 41-6235/HV-P "Halfpint" of Lt. Robert S Johnson) Lt. Ralph A Johnson's P-47 damaged - 1 wheel down, baled out. Those KIA include Capts. Merle Eby, Robert Wetherbee and 41-6534/UN-D of 63rd FS, Roger Dyar KIA near Rouen plus 41-6376 of Lt. Louis Barron

Unconfirmed claim
30.7.43/1030
B-17/YB 40 Flak Cruiser
Near Arnhem
Definitely not a YB-40 as there were none lost this day (although some were indeed serving with 92nd BG at this time)

Unconfirmed claim
9.9.43/0930
B-17 Flying Fortress
Beauvais-Somme
Claimed against force raiding Beauvais. Known overclaim, no losses

11th claim
11.9.43/1841
Typhoon Ib
near Haudramont (Quincampoix)/5-7km S of Aumale @ 3500m
JP536 of 175 sqn. F/S Robin O'Hara-Murray KIA

12th claim
3.10.43/1850
Spitfire XII
Near Noyon
MB834 of 41 sqn. F/S James Arthur Bryce Gray KIA

Unconfirmed claim
24.10.43/1230
B-26 Marauder
S of Montdidier
Said to have been damaged, but made it home. Only B-26 total loss this day was due to mechanical failure

13th claim
29.11.43/1005
Spitfire IX
N of Ypres @ 3000m
412 sqn RCAF. 2 losses: MJ169 of F/L A C Coles and MJ331 of F/O J A Robertson both POW. One other was Cat. B damaged
(Vogt inflicted the other loss)

Unconfirmed claim
29.4.44/1330
B-17 Flying Fortress eV
5km S of Reims
Known to have come from 401st BG. Their losses include B-17G-1-BO 42-31116 of 614th BS, B-17G-5-BO 42-31226 of 613th BS and B-17G-20-BO 42-31521 of 615th BS (all said to have been lost over Germany) B-17G-15-VE 42-97501 of 2/Lt. Elmer D Johnson and crew all KIA except one man POW. 708th BS also lost B-17G-50-BOs 42-102421/M of 2/Lt. Charles R Dowler and crew all KIA except one man WIA-POW plus also 42-102479 of 2/Lt. Edgar P Farrell and 5 others POW, 3 KIA

14th claim
5.5.44/0831
Spitfire IX
15km-17 NE of Mons @150m
MJ473 of 441 sqn RCAF. P/O Percy Alan McLachlan KIA

15th claim
12.6.44/0623
P-47 Thunderbolt
15-20km SE of Rouen (PQ TC) @ 400m
353rd FG, 8 pilots lost. 350th FS lost P-47D-4-RA 42-22779 of F/O John J Phelan KIA, P-47-21-REs 42-25541 of Lt. Goffred R Moretto evaded capture and 42-25768 of Lt. Edwin H Peters baled out over channel, rescued and had leg amputated (attributed Bf 109 victim), plus 42-26313 of Lt. Earl C Main POW and 42-26402/LH-U "Soubrette" of Capt. Dewey E Newhart KIA. 352nd FS lost 42-26011/SX-D of Lt. John R Gabriel evaded and 42-75707/SX-A "Little Hotsy" of Lt. Richard V Keywan KIA
(MANY claims in this engagement….)

16th claim
2.7.44/1558
Spitfire
NW of Caen
Possible overclaim

17th claim
18.7.44/0932
P-38 Lightning
N of Ivry-La-Bataille (PQ AC-3) @ 1200m
474th FG. Overclaiming, only 3 losses: P-38J-10-LOs 42-67518/7Y- of 429th FS, 2/Lt. Glenn W Goodrich (may not have been a fighter victim) and 42-67671/K6- of 2/Lt. Clarence R Harless Jr evaded capture plus P-38J-15-LO 43-28727/F5- of 428th FS, 2/Lt. George H Holland Jr evaded capture
(Again, many claims in this engagement)

18th claim
25.7.44/2011 (1922 BT?)
Mustang III
S of Bernay (PQ UB-78) @ 1200m
43-6666/FB107 of 122 sqn. F/O A V Hargreaves, evaded capture

27.7.44/0717
Mustang III
Pont L'evecque/S of Honfleur (PQ TA-5) 300-2500m
122 sqn. Overclaiming, only one loss: 43-6548/FZ167 of F/L A F Pavey DFC KIA plus one other damaged
(at least 3 other claims in the engagement)
11.11.44/1508
Mosquito PR XVI
Tweelbaeke, SW of Oldenburg
MM351 of 540 sqn. F/O Metcalf and F/L Lumsden KIA

27.12.44/ca. 1235 – 1300
2 x Tempest Vs
Muenster-Handorf area
486 sqn RNZAF. Overclaiming, only one loss: EJ627/E of F/O Bevan Mason Hall KIA plus that of F/O J Stafford damaged, returned
(Siebert claimed one as well)

19.3.45/1330 – 1345
P-51D-15-NA Mustang
Hemmelte, 9km SSW of Cloppenburg (came down near Varrelbusch)
This one said to be 44-15721/HL-C of 83rd FS, 78th FG, 1/Lt. Elmer K Nieland, baled out WIA-POW

28.3.45/1150
P-47D-28-RA Thunderbolt
SW of Muenster @ 900m
42-28887 of 512th FS, 406th FG. Lt. Vern Hendershott, baled out
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Old 18th November 2018, 07:54
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Exclamation Re: Peter Crump's Opponents

Hello ,

Please here some more info :
MJ-331 F/O Robertson crashed at Pervijze , MJ-169 at Koksijde and MJ-473 at Cambron ( Brugelette ) all in Belgium.

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Old 18th November 2018, 20:14
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Re: Peter Crump's Opponents

Quote:
MJ-473 at Cambron ( Brugelette )
MJ473 at Cambron-Saint-Vincent to be more precise.

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Old 19th November 2018, 12:05
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Re: Peter Crump's Opponents

Thanks Clin

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Old 19th November 2018, 14:18
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Re: Peter Crump's Opponents

Many thanks to both of you guys, I will update my database accordingly
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Old 20th November 2018, 10:02
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Re: Peter Crump's Opponents

Hello ,

You probably will have this :

Janus Stefan Władysław
P-0700
22.03.1910 Wola Duchacka Kraków
11.11.1978 Kraków

Jasiński Wawrzyniec
784725
17.11.1915Kępno
26.01.1943 Dunkirk

Wiejski Jan
P-0873
21.06.1915 Strzegowo Mława
02.02.1943

Okrój Jan
783688
26.01.1918 Stężyca Kartuzy
11.01.2011 Regina, SK, Canada

Zbierzchowski Jerzy Ryszard (Demar)
P-0514
29.01.1917 Piaski Wielkie Świdnik
27.01.1993Scarborough, WA, Australia

Skibiński Jerzy Tadeusz
P-1622
15.11.1919Bielow
13.02.1943


Henri A Picard
17/04/1916 Etterbeek Belgium

Martin Charlier
08/10/1900 Momalle Belgium

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Re: Peter Crump's Opponents

Hello,

I'm working on 350(Belgian) Squadron's history and my sources indicates that Crump's 1st Kill unfortunatly was AB912 of P/O Martin Joseph Julien Charlier, KIA

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Old 21st July 2023, 17:36
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Hello,

I'm working on 350(Belgian) Squadron's history and my sources indicates that Crump's 1st Kill unfortunatly was AB912 of P/O Martin Joseph Julien Charlier, KIA

Best regards

Serge

Cheers, Serge. Is it known for certain who downed Picard in BM297? I have an interest in the Great Escapers and how they ended up in the bag as well as being interested in who downed whom. Hoping you can help on that one
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