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1st 1./JG77 victory Far North (SB bomber) 24 June 1941
Hi guys
I have not been able to establish the identity of the pilot of 1./JG77 who shot down the first Russian aircraft in the Far North theatre, on 24 June 1941, an SB reconnaissance bomber. One would have thought that this would have been commemorated some way, perhaps in the newspapers? Has anyone any idea? Cheers Brian |
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Re: 1st 1./JG77 victory Far North (SB bomber) 24 June 1941
Hello!
Could be Hugo Dahmer? Once upon time I started this thread: Hugo Dahmer's (1./JG 77) mount Summer 1941 http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...ight=rovaniemi I think the question I asked is still unanswered. IIRC Dahmer received some Finnish medal for shootdowns over Rovaniemi June 1941. Cannot be sure after so many years.Edit(since studying this). Cheers, Kari Last edited by Kari Lumppio; 26th January 2020 at 10:26. |
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Re: 1st 1./JG77 victory Far North (SB bomber) 24 June 1941
Hi Kari
Thanks for your response. However, I have Dahmer's first claim as having occurred on 26 June (his 10th overall). My money is on Carganico, since he was the Staffelkapitan - possibly keen to score the Staffel's first victory and his own 9th? The SB was shot down over Kirkenes at 13.10 on 24 June. Carganico was credited with his 25th on 2 September. Would be good to establish details of those in between! Cheers Brian |
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Re: 1st 1./JG77 victory Far North (SB bomber) 24 June 1941
Mombeek in his book about JG 5 (Volume 4) say Dahmer has his 20th claim at 11.7.41. But in Luftwaffe Lagebericht Nr. 669 it ia said that Dahmer already claimed 20th victory at 8.7.41
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Re: 1st 1./JG77 victory Far North (SB bomber) 24 June 1941
Maybe not of help, but confirmation that Carganico/ dammer were in the are (Mombeek):
The Rotte of Oblt. Horst Carganico and Ofw. Hugo Dahmer of 1./JG.77 strafed the lighthouse on the Fischer peninsula, back at Kirkenes Dahmer recognized 7 holes of rifle fire in his Bf.109 “Yellow 7”. The SB was s/d in the area of Rybachi peninsula (= Fischer-Halbinsel). |
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Re: 1st 1./JG77 victory Far North (SB bomber) 24 June 1941
Thanks Igorr & Monaco
Your input appreciated. Cheers Brian |
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Re: 1st 1./JG77 victory Far North (SB bomber) 24 June 1941
No, according to all data SB-3 was shot down over Kirkenes (AOK 20, Luftwaffe Lagebericht)
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Re: 1st 1./JG77 victory Far North (SB bomber) 24 June 1941
Quoted from the excellent website:
http://sk16.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=1091 24.06.1941 Летчик лейтенант Семененко Василий Андрианович Адъютант командира эскадрильи ст.лейтенант Валов Григорий Яковлевич Воздушный стрелок-радист мл. сержант Громов Леонид Степанович Сбит в воздушном бою с истребителями противника в районе полуострова Рыбачий. Экипаж пропал без вести. Greets Michael |
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Re: 1st 1./JG77 victory Far North (SB bomber) 24 June 1941
I can't say where Sergey found this data. A. Mardanov also wrote "Tsyp-Navolok", but in documents of VVS SF stated, that SB was lost due unknown cause. All german docs indicated that plane was shot down over Kirkenes.
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Re: 1st 1./JG77 victory Far North (SB bomber) 24 June 1941
Maybe the mission in Mombeek is a different one, it was common for Carganico/ Dahmer to fly more than one during the long days of mid-summer 1941 in the north...
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