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Old 30th March 2005, 17:12
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Luftwaffe South (MTO) warning system...

HI all,

I am wondering if anyone can write me as detailed as possible procedure and equipment /location of warning for LUftwaffe units like 8.JD and others protecting south Reich area (Hngary, Austria, Slovakia, ...) against 15.AAF "intruders".
Wich radars were involved, their locations, who get the info as first etc...
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Hi,

Please have a look at:
http://www.gyges.dk/Flum%20and%20Jagd.htm

and follow the links to "SE Europe" and "Mediterranean" the information is based on German sources from BAMA, but can only be found - if at all - with difficulty in published literature.
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Old 31st March 2005, 14:32
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Re: Luftwaffe South (MTO) warning system...

Peter,


Hungary had their own developed and manufactured radars also, but the Hungarian fighter command got the info from the Germans too (their radars were more south)
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Re: Luftwaffe South (MTO) warning system...

Thanks, excellent. something like that I needed
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Re: Luftwaffe South (MTO) warning system...

Hi SES,

Austria looks empty - here some data:


8. Jagddivision Wien Cobenzl:


Luftnachrichten-Regiment 218
I / Luftnachrichten-Regiment 218 Wien-Döbling
1. Fernsprech- und Fernschreib- Betriebs-Kompanie Wien-Cobenzl
2. Funk-Kompanie Wien -Cobenzl
3. Flugmelde-Auswerte- und Betr. Kompanie Wien Cobenzl
4. Telegrafenbau-Kompanie Wien-Meidling

II / Luftnachrichten-Regiment 218 Neufeld / Leitha
10. Jägerleit-Kompanie "Selma" Sonnenberg
11. Jägerleit-Kompanie "Gladiole" Bad Gleichenberg
12. Jägerleit-Kompanie "Feige" Fünfkirchen (today Pecs)
13. Jägerleit-Kompanie "Champignon" Kalvinhegy
14. Jägerleit-Kompanie "Birne" Deutsch Brodek
15. Jägerleit-Kompanie "Sonnenblume" Speikkogel


Luftnachrichten-Regiment 228 Wien-Grinzing

I / Luftnachrichten-Regiment 228 Wien I
1. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Molch" Mörbisch
2. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Brummbär" Eibenschitz bei Brünn
3. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Neufundländer" Tyrnau (Ungarn)
4. Mittlere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie " Papagei" Untersiebenbrunn
5. Mittlere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Storch" Steinamanger (Szombathely)
6. Mittlere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Alpspitze" Andau-Wallern
Ln-Flugm. Funk-Kompanie z.b.V. Neutra
Ln-Ausbau-Kompanie (mot) 1 Wien-Mauer


II / Luftnachrichten-Regiment 228 Denesfa (Ungarn)

5. Mittlere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie Steinfels bei Steinamanger (Szombathely) 10. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Rabe" Lavopasclona
11. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Skorpion" Nemesvamos
12. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Kalb" Hevis
13. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Keiler" Kecskemet
14. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Milbe" Türje bei Sümeg
15. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Wachtel" Nagy Megyer
9. Luftgau-Nachr. Regiment 25 (Flugmeldefunk) Bakonyako
25. techn. Kompanie, Ln.-Rgt. 218 St.Andrä-Wördern


Luftnachrichten-Regiment 238 Amstetten

I / Luftnachrichten-Regiment 238 Prag
1. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Koralle" Krakowan
2. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Tapir" Mirotitz
3. Mittlere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Blutegel" Duhne
4. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Brummbär" Eibenschitz (Feb. 1945 an 2/228)

II / Luftnachrichten-Regiment 238 Amstetten
10. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Holzwurm" Holzleiten
11. Mittlere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Rehpinscher" Neufelden a.d. Mühl
13. Mittlere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Kleiber" Altenburg / Horn

III / Luftnachrichten-Regiment 238 Bruck a.d. Mur
20. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Saatkrähe" Forstalpe
21. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Rammler" Alt-Neudorf
22. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Assel" Agram

Luftnachrichten-Regiment 248 – Flugm.Rgt.Südost - Agram
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Old 31st March 2005, 22:34
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Re: Luftwaffe South (MTO) warning system...

the links go to

http://www.geheimprojekte.at/

only in German, but lots of well researched data

All the best

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Re: Luftwaffe South (MTO) warning system...

Hi werner,

I am aware of your excellent site and I am going to do an update. The basic info I've worked from is from the spring of 1944 with some later additions and it does need some work over. I'm going to add Austria at the soonest.
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Re: Luftwaffe South (MTO) warning system...

Werner,

excellent site. I knew it, but never actually had time to go page by page...If I knew it, I do not have to ask "stupid" questions on forum

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Re: Luftwaffe South (MTO) warning system...

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Hi SES,

Austria looks empty - here some data:


8. Jagddivision Wien Cobenzl:


Luftnachrichten-Regiment 218
I / Luftnachrichten-Regiment 218 Wien-Döbling
1. Fernsprech- und Fernschreib- Betriebs-Kompanie Wien-Cobenzl
2. Funk-Kompanie Wien -Cobenzl
3. Flugmelde-Auswerte- und Betr. Kompanie Wien Cobenzl
4. Telegrafenbau-Kompanie Wien-Meidling

II / Luftnachrichten-Regiment 218 Neufeld / Leitha
10. Jägerleit-Kompanie "Selma" Sonnenberg
11. Jägerleit-Kompanie "Gladiole" Bad Gleichenberg
12. Jägerleit-Kompanie "Feige" Fünfkirchen (today Pecs)
13. Jägerleit-Kompanie "Champignon" Kalvinhegy
14. Jägerleit-Kompanie "Birne" Deutsch Brodek
15. Jägerleit-Kompanie "Sonnenblume" Speikkogel


Luftnachrichten-Regiment 228 Wien-Grinzing

I / Luftnachrichten-Regiment 228 Wien I
1. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Molch" Mörbisch
2. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Brummbär" Eibenschitz bei Brünn
3. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Neufundländer" Tyrnau (Ungarn)
4. Mittlere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie " Papagei" Untersiebenbrunn
5. Mittlere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Storch" Steinamanger (Szombathely)
6. Mittlere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Alpspitze" Andau-Wallern
Ln-Flugm. Funk-Kompanie z.b.V. Neutra
Ln-Ausbau-Kompanie (mot) 1 Wien-Mauer


II / Luftnachrichten-Regiment 228 Denesfa (Ungarn)

5. Mittlere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie Steinfels bei Steinamanger (Szombathely) 10. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Rabe" Lavopasclona
11. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Skorpion" Nemesvamos
12. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Kalb" Hevis
13. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Keiler" Kecskemet
14. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Milbe" Türje bei Sümeg
15. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Wachtel" Nagy Megyer
9. Luftgau-Nachr. Regiment 25 (Flugmeldefunk) Bakonyako
25. techn. Kompanie, Ln.-Rgt. 218 St.Andrä-Wördern


Luftnachrichten-Regiment 238 Amstetten

I / Luftnachrichten-Regiment 238 Prag
1. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Koralle" Krakowan
2. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Tapir" Mirotitz
3. Mittlere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Blutegel" Duhne
4. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Brummbär" Eibenschitz (Feb. 1945 an 2/228)

II / Luftnachrichten-Regiment 238 Amstetten
10. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Holzwurm" Holzleiten
11. Mittlere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Rehpinscher" Neufelden a.d. Mühl
13. Mittlere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Kleiber" Altenburg / Horn

III / Luftnachrichten-Regiment 238 Bruck a.d. Mur
20. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Saatkrähe" Forstalpe
21. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Rammler" Alt-Neudorf
22. Schwere Flugm. Leit-Kompanie "Assel" Agram

Luftnachrichten-Regiment 248 – Flugm.Rgt.Südost - Agram
no further info


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Hi Werner,
Done a few corrections, but it did not add much to Austria. On your map you have:
SCHIMMEL
HUND
BLAUFUCHS
HENNE
which do not appear on your above listing, could you please clarify.
bregds
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Old 1st April 2005, 19:46
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Re: Luftwaffe South (MTO) warning system...

not all of Austria was in the Luftgau XVI Wien (Vienna), two of the federal states were attached to the Luftgau VII München (Muinch) - Tirol (Tyrol ) and Vorarlberg. => two Kompanien of III/Lg.Nachr.Rgt.227 with Innsbruck and Lend bei Zell am See were not part of 8.Jagddivision ( Salamander & Schimmel )

Hund, Henne and Blaufuchs: AFAIK it is not really clear which units operated them, but all of them were in high mountains and they were also late war operated sites.


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