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Old 6th January 2021, 15:36
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Thanks for providing the originals, Nick, highly appreciated. A quick question: the Nancy raid mentioned in the originals is dated 24 June 1944, not 24 May 1944 ?

Correction: if not mistaken, the three pages originals you kindly provide are ULTRA CX/MSS/T226/66 devoted to the attack of A/F Soucelles, 24 June 1944 - then base for 6./JG 53 ?

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JG 26 at Nancy is taken from CX/MSS/T198/41, "Unsigned and incomplete series of accident reports dated 26/5" and other messages. So it definitely happened in May.

III./JG 27 at Soucelles:
CX/MSS/T226/21
Dated 24/6 to IC:
Low-level attack by 8 Mustangs on a/f 7 (C% 0) C ((satellite of Angers)) from 08.05 to 08.25 hrs.
2 Bf 109 of (Roman) of III./JG 27 burned out. (B% 6) Bf 109 of (Roman) III./JG 27 shot up.
CX/MSS/T226/66
KV 9571
((A)) From IC to IC (situation) and QM on 25/6:
i) Subsidiary A/F Soucelles near Angers.
ii) 24/6/1635 hrs.
iii) 25 Mustangs. A/C armament.

… NOTES:
1) Low level attacks on 70 C at 08.15 and 16.30–17.05/24/6 in T226/17, 21, 33, 53. Losses were: At 08.15 hrs. 2 burnt out, 3 to 6 shot up. At 17.00 10 a/c destroyed.
2) In item 2, para. VIII A and B possibly killed and wounded. Para. IX possibly a/c damaged. Cf. T209/187.
3) Comparison of the above references with the present documents suggests that 70 C may equal Soucelles.
As for 6./JG 53, II./JG 53 was operating under the control of JG 27's Kommodore at the time. Pierre Babin told me that the 6. Staffel was at Soucelles but the ULTRAs son't make that clear.
REF. CX/MSS/T224/9 KV 9269
ZZZ
Following Me 109 reported very early on 23rd serviceable at Angers.
Stab JG 27: 1
(Strong indications I. Gruppe) JG 27: 6
III./JG 27: 12
IV./JG 27: 6
II./JG 53: 9
(Comment: KV 9176 refers occupation Angers satellite airfields by these units)
231111Z/6/44
It was ordered to transfer to a new base on the 25th and operated on 26 June with 4 aircraft from Champfleury.
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All clear regarding Soucelles as per CX/MSS/T226/21 -26 and CX/MSS/T224/9 KV 9269, Nick.

I was just confused because my original post addressed Fl.Pl. Nancy's 25 May 1944 attack - CX/MSS/T198/41 - which was not among the pages posted in post #277.

Thanks again for your time and very complete follow-up, Nick. Highly appreciated.

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I was just confused because my original post addressed Fl.Pl. Nancy's 25 May 1944 attack - CX/MSS/T198/41 - which was not among the pages posted in post #277

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Sorry, my mistake. The business of III./JG 26 at Nancy is complicated because it depends on piecing together a number of fragmented ULTRA intercepts (transcriptions of three such items attached). By the way, that 740… Werk Nummer is what's on file, so I suspect the mistake arose when the original message was being entered on to the Enigma machine.
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If I haven't a mistake during the transcription from his fligtlog it was W.Nr.440723...
I have WNr. 440723 as taken from his FB as well.
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Nick,

I chanced on this photo- currently offered by Michael Meyer on eBay:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...IAAOSwXwhgALX8

Given the white MTO Theatre band, could it be a Ju 188 D from 4.(F) or 6.(F)/122 ?

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More stuff uploaded this afternoon:
  • Geschwader Bongart: two German accounts (thanks to Alain Cerri) of bombing of the Glières Plateau; Bongart: a new section about the unit's Operations Officer, Maj. Dr. Ochs (thanks to Vince Ochs); a new table of organisation as of 22.07.44; note about Ofw. Karl Zobe; added photo of Re. 2002 W.Nr. 1283; additions to acknowledgements and sources.
  • Operation Dragoon: a note on Ju 188 W.Nr. 280237 of 1.(F)/33.
  • The Bf 109 H and 5.(F)/123: information on testing at Memmingen (thanks to Steve Coates).
  • Raid damage reports: note about report of Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 740723 (thanks to JimP and Marc-André Haldimann); I./KG 66 aircraft damaged at Montdidier on 12 June 1944.
  • Armistice to Eagle Day: amended conclusions.
  • ULTRA and Adlertag: quotes from naval situation reports and (thanks to Chris Going) identification of some target numbers.
  • Kommando Koch: new material throughout on jamming reported by No. 221 Squadron and other RAF units.
  • Kommando Rastedter: additions about the Metox and Hagenuk radar warning receivers.
  • Kommando Kunkel: addition about the fate of the Kommando's aircraft and personnel.
  • Invasion Watch (April–June 1944): an addition regarding Bf 109 W.Nr. 20355.
  • Kampfflieger Vol. IV: an RAF veteran's account of one consequence of the raid on Bari
  • SG 4 Normandy: more on KG 54's supply drops to radar station Distelfink on 9 and 12 June 1944.
  • JGr. 200: addition about an anti-partisan action by Luftwaffe Flak and signals personnel from Aix-les-Milles aerodrome.
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