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Old 20th December 2011, 14:52
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B17s bomb Dutch town 11.19.43

Hi Folks,

Got my hands on a Logbbok from the 385th BG, saying they unloaded their bombs on a Dutch town after failing to find the target. Obviously they did not know where they were; very laconic comments in logbook. Anyone got any more on this??

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USAAF 19.11.1943

127 of 161 B-17's and 3 of 6 B-17 PFF aircraft are dispatched to Gelsenkirchen, Germany but the malfunction of blind-bombing equipment and the weather causes the force to attack targets of opportunity on the German-Dutch border at 1241-1251 hours.
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Old 21st December 2011, 14:20
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Thanks Frankie,
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... sorrily not.

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Re: B17s bomb Dutch town 11.19.43

Alan,

The "targets of opportunity" were in fact rural areas in the province of Gelderland, Netherlands. Most bombs came down on farmfields.

A bomb came down on a castle (Rosendael) and there are also a testimonies of bombs on farms and fields around Haarlo and Hummelo, small towns in the eastern part of Gelderland province.

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Re: B17s bomb Dutch town 11.19.43

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USAAF 19.11.1943

127 of 161 B-17's and 3 of 6 B-17 PFF aircraft are dispatched to Gelsenkirchen, Germany but the malfunction of blind-bombing equipment and the weather causes the force to attack targets of opportunity on the German-Dutch border at 1241-1251 hours.
Hello.
12.45 h, 42 bombs fell just outside the town of Doesburg!
Just North of the IJssel river at an area called "Stadsweide" !
Hummelo: Just before 13.00h , 15 He bombs and 9 Inc
Drempt: 10 Inc.
The route Hummelo-Drempt-Doesburg is to the West...USAAF returning home!
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Hi Folks,

Got my hands on a Logbbok from the 385th BG, saying they unloaded their bombs on a Dutch town after failing to find the target. Obviously they did not know where they were; very laconic comments in logbook. Anyone got any more on this??

Alan F
Hello,
I am also in possession of a diary which says:
19 november 1943: About 200 Phosphor bombs fell in the Valkenhuizen area at Arnhem. Valkenhuizen = NNE of Arnhem
Also bombs near Rozendaal Castle.

Alan: How many a/c unloaded their bombs on a Dutch town?
The Whole 385 Bomb Group or one or two Bomb Squadrons?
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Re: B17s bomb Dutch town 11.19.43

Hi guys

Were there any reported casualties?

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Hi guys

Were there any reported casualties?

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Hello Brian,
No reported casualties!
Most of the bombs fell in open fields!
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Thanks Karl

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