5J+ER (7/KG4) downed 27 Oct 1940

[Chris Goss]

Interesting that the K report doesn't mention Linton (and the NVM & Podbielski does) and Linton said it was attacked by 3 Ju 88s, one of which was damaged and was assumed to be the one that crash-landed. Also, the Wk Nr from the G report doesn't match the NVM or QMG's returns.

Bill:

Apart from Linton, have you ascertained which other airfields were attacked by III/KG 30 that day?
As to next issue of Flypast and is due out at the end of this month, it is a Luftwaffe Special so possibly but the emphasis is on the He 111 not Ju 88 so be prepared to be disappointed?

[Torgau]

Hello,

Friedrich Franz Podbielski (born 1. October 1908) was a cousin of my father.

a picture of his aircraft you can found here:

http://www.yorkshire-aircraft.co.uk/...rk40/5jer.html

Ulf

[edNorth]

Originally Posted by Chris Goss

Also, the Wk Nr from the G report doesn't match the NVM or QMG's returns.

Chris, quite right, this 1258 is "Serial Number" - as the TNA AIR 22/266 CREA report says - and is not same as W-Nr. 0886129 (CREA does not say its an W-Nr. does it?) Well its not the same, but is truly a valid Serial number, certainly from the part plate it was obtained from..

These were the B.Nr. known from many other NDW / HWO made Ju 88´s (i.e part plates) and fits quite well be about the 258th (fuselage) by NDW, that was fitted to (088)6129, as HWO was their building partner, supplying the wings to NDW, and getting fuselages from NDW.

Simple math here: 258 divided by two, you have 129 (0886129).
And they started at B.Nr. 1001 for A-1, and 2001 for A-4´series.
My take here is that NDW Ju 88 part numbers serials, known from under 1001 (and there are some) be likely supplied to other assembly lines, and NDW parts are indeed known from other assemblers airplanes.

I have indentified some such numbers in various publications, reports and such, even attempted tying them down to unknown W.Nr´s in crash reports. Problem here is finding if they were close enough to original plane or month, or if it were all parts with the same B.Nr. that made up the same airplane, or in which order they were issued to NDW or HWO assembly lines.

Such B.Nr.´s numbers are also known from NDW He 111´s, and other similar numbers are known from factories in Ju 88 program alone, but some of this stuff has had aviation enthusiasts "baffled" for decades. It seems many goes for the W-Nr., and behave ther be no other "Holy Grail" to pusue (sorry the pun, no offence meant).

-Ed

[Chris Goss]

Torgau: Thanks for you post. This is one of quite a number of photos of this aircraft