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Old 7th July 2017, 11:23
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Lockheed P-38 Lightning - successful over five continents

Good morning Gentlemen,

I'm trying to find out which planes scored kill on all five continents.
The P-40 for sure. http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...t=45847&page=2
The P-39 and the F4U maybe.

Also the P-38:
  • Europe: Donald Kienholz (Italy)
  • Africa: William Sloan (Tunisia)
  • Asia: Richard Bong (Philippines)
  • Australia & Oceania: Richard Bong (Papua New Guinea)
  • America: Frederick Moore (Alaska)
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Old 7th July 2017, 15:50
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Re: Lockheed P-38 Lightning - successful over five continents

Hello,
Details can be found by searching the link of WW2Credits in the link given in the "Stickies" above.
A quick Alphabetical search of it gave me the following, I omitted the dates.

BONG, Richard I.
Australia/Philippines, given in the Alphabetical List as SWP
Fourth (40) claims, 21 with the 9th Fighter Squadron 19 with the 5th Fighter Squadron.

KIENHOLZ, Donald D.
Europe , given in the list as the MTO.
Six(6) claims with the 94thFighter Squadron.

MOORE, Frederick.
Alaska
Three(3) claims with the 54 Fighter Squadron.

SLOAN, William J.
Africa given in the Alphabetical l ist as MTO
Twelve(12) claimed with the 96 Fighter Squadron.

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Re: Lockheed P-38 Lightning - successful over five continents

Alex,
For Bong, that should be 5th Fighter Command, not Squadron.

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Re: Lockheed P-38 Lightning - successful over five continents

Good evening Alex & Frank,

were George Laven's Alaska kills scored in the P-38 (and over Alaska) ?
Were Arthur Rice's Alaska kills scored in the P-39 or P-40 (and over Alaska) ?

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Re: Lockheed P-38 Lightning - successful over five continents

None of the 11th Air Force's victories were scored over "Alaska". All were scored over the Aleutian Islands, which are part of the (then territory, now state) of Alaska.
Laven's victories were scored in the P-38E. He actually has three in the Aleutians: a biplane over Kiska on September 14, 1942; and two Zeros on Feb 13, 1943, also over Kiska. However the credits given by the USAF are for half a victory on Oct 3, 1942 (this is actually a Mavis that was caught on the water in harbor and strafed, and thus should not be counted); 1.5 victories on Feb 13, 1943 (and I don't know how they arrived at the half credit). All these in the Aleutians with the 54th FS. He has an additional credit with the 49th FG on April 26, 1945 off Formosa, of an Emily. I have a problem with the latter, because when he sent me copies of his Form 5s it showed a silhouette of a Pete, which is rather different and smaller than an Emily. In particular, he is not an ace.

Rice's claims were made while flying a P-39D.

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Old 10th July 2017, 10:35
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Re: Lockheed P-38 Lightning - successful over five continents

Good morning Frank & Alex,

Alex's list indicates only one kill for Laven in February 1943 (plus a half-share on 3Oct42 and one on 26Apr45).

It seems to me like the P-39 scored on at least four continents:
  • Europe: Grigorii Rechkalov (Ukraine)
  • Africa: Hugh Dow (Tunisia)
  • Asia: The US P-39's are supposed to have scored five kills in the CBI, is this true ?
  • Australia & Oceania: William McDonough (Papua New Guinea)
  • America: Arthur Rice (Aleutians)
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Re: Lockheed P-38 Lightning - successful over five continents

I've included this breakdown in my P-39 thread.
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...763#post264763

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