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Old 28th March 2013, 16:35
Laurent Rizzotti Laurent Rizzotti is offline
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Losses of IV./JG 54 on 9 or 10 November 1944

The JG 54 loss list by the late Gunter Rosipal has three entries for IV./JG 54 on 10 November 1944:

Gefr Karl Sablatnig of 13./JG 54 was wounded and his Fw 190 A-8 WNr 380363 damaged beyond repair (at 60%) when it overturned on landung at Görlitz.
Ofw Oskar Kirchmeier of 14./JG 54 was wounded and his Fw 190 A-8 WNr 732185 damaged beyond repair (at 70%) when it overturned on landung at Canitz/Sachsen.
Uffz Erwin Böttge of 14./JG 54 was wounded and his Fw 190 A-8 WNr 380350 damaged at 40% during a crash-landing at Genshagen during a ferry flight.

But when I check the summary of Lutfwaffe losses database by Andreas Brekken, no loss is reported for IV./JG 54 on 10 November 1944, but the day before (9 November), 2 aircraft of IV./JG 54 were destroyed without enemy action on non-operational flight and 5 more damaged without enemy action on non-operational flight. These losses were reported on 16 November (1 damaged) and 19 (all the others). There is no loss listed on 9 November in Rosipal file.

My guess is that both sources are describing the same events, but at two different dates.

Can someone confirm that the three above airmen were wounded on 9 or 10 November 1944 ?

Thanks in advance

Laurent
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Old 28th March 2013, 21:27
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Re: Losses of IV./JG 54 on 9 or 10 November 1944

The losses of Sablatnig, Kirchmaier & Böttge were on November 9th. Rosipal list is incorrect.
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Old 29th March 2013, 12:24
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Re: Losses of IV./JG 54 on 9 or 10 November 1944

Thanks John
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