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F/L R.B Lord of Squadron 183
Hello everybody,
I am looking for information on the F/L R.B Lord of Squadron 183 'Gold Coast', shot down by flak near Crecy (France) on 8 February 1944 Typhoon MN183 thank you |
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Re: F/L R.B Lord of Squadron 183
MN183 is also recorded as being lost on 26 September 1944 with Richard Ulick Williams aboard...... ??????
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Re: F/L R.B Lord of Squadron 183
yes I think there is a mistake somewhere, in Norman Franks' book - Fighter Losses 1944-1945 it is well noted MN183, and in other places 26 September 1944 with Richard Ulick William
according to Norman Francks, Ulick had the MN130 there is confusion.....it's not easy. https://backtonormandy.org/the-histo...3-4155251.html http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...php?uniq=MN183 http://www.caribbeanaircrew-ww2.com/...earch&paged=19 thank you |
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regards Dennis Burke Foreign Aircraft in Ireland 1939-1945 http://www.ww2irishaviation.com |
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Chris Thomas in his book on the Typhoon and Tempest says MN183 8 Feb 44 and MN130 24 Sep 44
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I would say this is a typical case where we again can see how much more unreliable the ORBs are compared with the aircraft's recordcards
JR183 was in use by No 183 at the time. However it is known to have been transferred over to No 56 OTU and SOC 5 Oct 1946 MN183 had only one operational user, No 183 Sq and it was lost 8 Feb 1944 MN130 had previously been in use with two other users before transferring to No 183 Sq and shot down 26 Sep 1944 (i know you know that Chris, but your fingers seem not to have followed the instructions from your brain...plus C Thomas also wrote the 26th!) I am not saying the record cards are the Bible, but if I have to make a choice I would almost always go with the record card and not the ORBs. Cheers Stig |
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Re: F/L R.B Lord of Squadron 183
...........more haste less speed. There are some historians who use the F540 as a bible but the F540 is only as good as the man writing it. Look at 213 Sqn in the Battle of Britain
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Re: F/L R.B Lord of Squadron 183
I don't have any experience as such with the RAF record cards Chris and I fully understand your point.
In aviation research nothing is Bible, it is up to the experience of the researcher to try and determine what is correct and what is not. Human failure with regard to documentation is ever lasting... Cheers Stig |
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Re: F/L R.B Lord of Squadron 183
thank you very much for your help, it's not easy.....
so it's the MN183 :-) do you have any information or others about the F/L R.B Lord of Squadron 183 ? thanks to all of you |
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