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Old 23rd May 2005, 08:41
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French losses on 12.05.40

Hi everyone,


I have a next question regarding French losses in May 1940.
Please help me with following German claims:
- 12.05.40 I/JG20 at 18.55 Potez 63 S.E.Antwerp
- 12.05.40 II/JG51 at 17.15 Mureaux E.Zabern
- 12.05.40 III/JG53 at 19.10 Potez 63 south of Metz
Any idea about French units, pilots and serials?

TIA

Robert
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Old 24th May 2005, 11:12
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Re: French losses on 12.05.40

Hi Robert

12.05.40

ANF les Mureaux 115 n° 35 from GAO 553 shot down at about 16.00 by 2 Bf 109, pilot wounded, obs. safe.

Avions n° 60 , La saga des biplaces "Parasol" ANF Mureaux, Pierre Cortet.

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Old 24th May 2005, 12:40
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Re: French losses on 12.05.40

Hi Stephane,


once more thanks a lot.
Yet another question about 12.05.40
- did any French fighter unit lose aircraft in the vicinity of Tirlemont afternoon (14-16) or in the morning over Belgium?

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Old 24th May 2005, 19:57
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Re: French losses on 12.05.40

Hi Robert !

Potez 63 nr.317 crashed at Sint-Job-in't-Goor (near Antwerp). Crew Sordet,Lamy and Vanaret got wounded.

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Old 24th May 2005, 21:05
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Re: French losses on 12.05.40

Hi Luc,

thanks a lot!
Any idea about the unit?
Perhaps you know something about French fighters losses?

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Old 24th May 2005, 21:13
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Potez 63.11 nr.317

Hi Robert,

The unit of this plane was GR I/35.

Several French fighters crashed in Belgium on 12/05/1940 ....
Do you happen to know the type ?

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Old 24th May 2005, 22:04
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Re: French losses on 12.05.40

Hi Luc,


yes I want to know the type, time and place than the Germans claimed some Hurricanes in the morning around Brussel and afternoon in the vicinity of Tirlemont (Galland) and I think this were the French planes (perhaps MS-406 or CH-75 or even MB-152 were mistaken by the Germans with Hurricane).


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Old 24th May 2005, 23:36
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Re: French losses on 12.05.40

12.05.40 combat losses over Belgium

GC I/1

Fight with Bf 109s near Tellin at about 12.50
MB.152 n° 409 shot down, A/C Levasseur baled out wounded
+ 2 MB.152 damaged

GC III/1

Fight with a He 111 near Anvers at 5.30
MS.406 n° 1031 damaged by return fire, force landed. Lt Bursztyn wounded

Fight with bombers during the morning
Adj Dechanet wounded, crash landed his MS.406 on return near Moerbeke Field

Fight with Bf 110 near Breda at about 12.45
Lt Calmel wounded, force landed his MS.406 n° 759 on return near Aalst

GC II/2

No loss, but during the afternoon, 2 fights with Bf 109 near Dinant, the first one while protecting a Potez 63.11, and the second while attacking some Ju 88. One Bf 109 probable

GC III/3

Fight with Bf 110 near Schellebelle train station at about 9.00
MS.406 shot down, Lt Beran killed
MS.406 shot down, Adj Bassaget baled out wounded

There's no other fighter loss over Belgium to my knowledge

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Old 25th May 2005, 07:21
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Re: French losses on 12.05.40

Hi Stephane,

thanks a lot!
It seems that Germans never reported this combt with GCI/1!

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Old 25th May 2005, 12:13
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Re: French losses on 12.05.40

I'm not sure, but this loss can correspond to the claim of the 3./JG 21 on a Curtiss at 14.20 near Namur. There is only a half hour between the two events, and the sector is the same, the french fighters returned from Huy when they are been attacked.

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