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8th February 2020, 23:24
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Bf 109 K-4 Erla W.Nr. 570379
Hello,
As far as I know, only two Erla Bf 109 K-4 are documented. One of them was captured by American troops: W.Nr. 570379. A photo was published at Falcon's Bf 109 Hangar. Does anybody know where and by what US unit the photo was taken? Thanks, Roger 
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9th February 2020, 16:41
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Re: Bf 109 K-4 Erla W.Nr. 570379
Roger,
The photo you refer to is noted as W.Nr. 570271. it was sold on eBay in July 2009 and, unfortunately, I didn't take notice then from which US unit was the photographing GI. There is a fair chance to track this photo back thanks to worthpoint.com, a site dedicated to estimating antiques and collectibles. Interestingly for our field of study, they do keep a low res image of the original sale as reference. It is worth a try. Cheers Marc
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22nd February 2020, 19:39
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Re: Bf 109 K-4 Erla W.Nr. 570379
Roger/Marc
I am a bit confused. The website says WNr 570276! Roger gives 570379 and Marc 570271. I must confess I think 570276 is the best visual interpretation. Are there any documents that favour any of your interpretation?? Cheers Stig
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22nd February 2020, 20:56
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Re: Bf 109 K-4 Erla W.Nr. 570379
Marc and Stig,
Prien lists Erla-built Bf 109 K-4/R6 WNr. 570362 as undergoing prototype testing. This, along with careful examination of the photo, suggests to me that the Erla-built Bf 109 K-4 in the photo with the GI’s is WNr. 570376. Regarding possible US units that might be the source for the photo, here are four that I’ve documented so far: 2nd ID, US 1st Army; 688th TD BN; 69th ID, US 1st Army; and an unknown AAA outfit. Respectfully, Steve Sheflin
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24th February 2020, 21:35
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Re: Bf 109 K-4 Erla W.Nr. 570379
Well Steve
Cannot but admit you have a point.  However I still find that digit 3 much more looking like a digit 2, but "looking like" and "really is" are two highly different things.....which I have learned the hard way in the past..... Thanks for the pointer Steve Cheers Stig
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24th February 2020, 22:21
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Re: Bf 109 K-4 Erla W.Nr. 570379
I am continuing to research Worthpoint and found this. For me, the exact type is not obvious.
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...109-1998810594
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24th February 2020, 22:34
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25th February 2020, 10:40
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Re: Bf 109 K-4 Erla W.Nr. 570379
Quote:
Not a K-4
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