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Old 27th July 2016, 20:12
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The type and range of the on-board radio in the Me 109?

2 qestions:

a) What type of on-board radio/s was/were in Me 109 D and E-1 in 1939?

b) What was the practical range of on-board radio in Me 109 Ds and E-1s in 1939 (pilot to pilot)?

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Old 27th July 2016, 20:30
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Re: The type and range of the on-board radio in the Me 109?

Partial answer dated 1941 for a recovered Me-109.


"The equipment described in the following article was installed in a German Messerschmidt 109 shot down over the Thames estuary. The aeroplane was shipped to the United States through arrangements made by Mrs. Winston Churchill, honorary sponsor of “Bundles for Britain.” Upon its arrival Lear engineers removed the radio apparatus, and the equipment was thoroughly tested by Mr. Lear in his laboratories at Lear Avia, Inc., Piqua, Ohio. A covering note accompanying the article says: “Mr. Lear's report on the German radio equipment stressed four points: (1) The Germans have apparently ‘frozen’ their military radio design since 1933, and standardized their tubes and components for ease of mass production and servicing. (2) Shortages of war materials are indicated by the use of ceramics instead of plastics, fibre instead of rubber and special alloys instead of aluminium. (3) The extremely limited range of the transmitter (around 5 miles) and the provision for higher power output, indicate that most German warplancs in a given squadron can talk only to one another, while only the leader can communicate with his base. (4) German aircraft radio apparatus found in the Messerschmidt cannot pass U.S. Government lest for even commercial radio equipment, and weighs more than comparable American apparatus.”



Source: http://www.emeraldinsight.com/doi/pd....1108/eb030851



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Re: The type and range of the on-board radio in the Me 109?

Thanks, looks a quite short distance about 9-10 km.


Strange, that "while only the leader can communicate with his base". So he shoud have much more stronger radio?


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Re: The type and range of the on-board radio in the Me 109?

More information here:


http://migrate.legendsintheirowntime...108_radio.html






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Re: The type and range of the on-board radio in the Me 109?

Bf 109 Es, Fs , G1 & G2 : Funkgerät 7, range usually given as around 50 km.
Bf 109 from G3 : Funkgerät 16Z, range varies from 30 km at 300 m to 320 km at 10 000 m.
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Re: The type and range of the on-board radio in the Me 109?

Lear's report, at least as given in the link, doesn't quote the actual range, let alone being as short as 5 miles.
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