eBAy: Captured german planes

[Stig Jarlevik]

Thanks Christian

For your info the Z WNr were 2695 - 2706
STKZ were in that order DS+EQ, DG+RU, TH+ZL to ZN, TM+KU, TM+KW to KY, DG+DY to DZ and DG+DV (at least that is what I have been told)

Cheers
Stig

[Tom Willis]

Thanks Stig - There were 2 prototypes - DS+EQ & DG+RU and 10 production aircraft. As you have 1 extra Stkz I think that DG+DV is a corruption of DG+DY.

[Stig Jarlevik]

Not sure I follow you Tom

I still get my STKZ to 12, but perhaps it is better to list the whole lot as this

2695 V1 DS+EQ
2696 V2 DG+RU
2697 Z-1 TH+ZL
2698 Z-1 TH+ZM
2699 Z-1 TH+ZN
2700 Z-1 TM+KU
2701 Z-1 TM+KW
2702 Z-1 TM+KX
2703 Z-1 TM+KY
2704 Z-1 DG+DY
2705 Z-1 DG+DZ
2706 Z-1 DG+DV

What do you got??

Cheers
Stig

[RudiS]

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[Tom Willis]

Post 2381/2381/2383
Hi Stig - I appear to have misunderstood the construct of your Stkz/W/Nr list. I thought you were listing TM+KU to KY (this would also include TM+KV) - also leaving the last as being a little ambiguous " at least that is what I have been told " (DG+DV).
I 'got' the following excluding the prototypes:
2697 - TH+ZL
2698 - TH+ZM
2699 - TH+ZN
2700 - TM+KV
2701 - TM+KW
2702 - TM+KX
2703 - TM+KY
3704 - DG+DY
2705 - DG+DZ
2706 - DG+DV
However, I have always wondered why the last W/Nr/Stkz is out of sequence. Perhaps the original Stkz block DG+GV to GZ were assigned to He111H airframes before being re-built as He111Z-1s. Can anybody confirm the He111Z production W/Nrs with their respective Stkz from documents and photos?

[edwest2]

Post # 2384. I have read that in order to avoid falling intact into Allied hands, an explosive charge on a time delay was placed in the wing.

[Stig Jarlevik]

Originally Posted by Tom Willis

Post 2381/2381/2383
Hi Stig - I appear to have misunderstood the construct of your Stkz/W/Nr list. I thought you were listing TM+KU to KY (this would also include TM+KV) - also leaving the last as being a little ambiguous " at least that is what I have been told " (DG+DV).
I 'got' the following
2700 - TM+KV

That explains it Tom. Thanks for checking yours! Can anyone confirm if the STKZ for 2700 was TM+KV or TM+KU? Seems to be the only difference in our lists.

Cheers
Stig

[David E. Brown]

Gents,

I read the V-kenn. as T4+KX or T4+AY. The second character is to me clearly a number 4 and this would make the machine`s unit Verband-Staffel Luftflotte 2. If memory serves, this and associated photos were taken in central France (Dijon). This unit operated in the Med from there and Istres, so the location fits.

Cheers,

David

[ChristianK]

David, it's definitely an "M", not a "4". There is an irritating light-colored horizontal bar on the right fuselage, but I think this is some feature of the airframe highlighted by the fire. You can also see the "M" in front of the Balkenkreuz on the left fuselage.

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Originally Posted by David E. Brown

Gents,

I read the V-kenn. as T4+KX or T4+AY. The second character is to me clearly a number 4 and this would make the machine`s unit Verband-Staffel Luftflotte 2. If memory serves, this and associated photos were taken in central France (Dijon). This unit operated in the Med from there and Istres, so the location fits.

Cheers,

David

David and ChristianK, thanks for your insights. IMHO, the whole set of photos might well have been taken on the same Fl.Pl. which is clearly in Germany, given what we can see from the buildings. Those utterly thrashed 109's do ring a bell, possibly Fürth, but I of course stand corrected.

It would be great to nail down the location for this He 111 Z and those other planes.

Cheers
Marc