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Old 8th October 2017, 19:08
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Re: KG53 losses on 23.10.41

Thank you Leo for writing it all down!

So the loss of the Staka from 9. Staffel on the 23th can not be confirmed in any way and look like to be a mistake made by Weal.

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Old 8th October 2017, 20:23
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Re: KG53 losses on 23.10.41

Hello Thomas,

to your post #3:
Sometimes the function of a pilot like Staffelkapitän is called, in these cases are no entries.

Further losses of III./KG 53 around the 23 October 1941:
2.10. 8./KG 53 He 111 H-6 5349 (typo or a H-2) Besatzung Fw Grave (Grave unverletzt)
7.10. 7./KG 53 He 111 H-6 4376 Besatzung Fw Kunz
22.10. 7./KG 53 He 111 H-6 4369 Besatzung Lt Puschmann
23.10. III./KG 53 He 111 H-5 3991 Notlandung 70%
15.11. 8./KG 53 He 111 H-5 3926 Besatzung Fw Grave (vermisst).

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Re: KG53 losses on 23.10.41

Thanks for the additional details Leo

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Old 16th October 2017, 01:55
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Re: KG53 losses on 23.10.41

Is there any indication why KG 53 suffered such heavy losses on 23 October? This was very unusual for this period of the war on the Eastern front.

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Old 16th October 2017, 09:16
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Re: KG53 losses on 23.10.41

Hi Leo,

Thank you for the additional information, much appreciated!

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Old 13th November 2017, 10:43
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Re: KG53 losses on 23.10.41

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In John Weal's book "He 111 Kampfgeschwader on the Russian front" I read that KG53 lost 5 machines on the 23.10.1941. One from II./KG53 and four from III./KG53. among them were the Staka's on 7. and 9. Staffel.
I found information that the Staka of 8. Staffel got KIA on the 23.10.41. Hptm Willi Haster (posthumous promo to Major). This information can also be found in the "Luftwaffe Officer Carreer Summeries" by De Zeng & Stankey.

But the name Haster is not yet mentioned in this thread as being a KIA on that date. Does someone have more information on Hptm. Haster?

So Weal could very well be right that two Staka's got KIA on the 23th. Just not from the 9. Staffel as he wrote, but the 7. And 8. Staffel.

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