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Old 20th February 2009, 04:57
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I/JG11, IV/JG3 or I/JG1 FW190 lost near Schwerin May 1, 1945

I am searching for any information on this this FW190 that was shot down May 1, 1945 near Schwerin and could have been a I/JG11, IV/JG3 or I/JG1 pilot/aicraft. The pilot died in the crash.

CAN ANYONE HELP WITH ANY CLUES???
Lee Walsh - Toronto Canada
walshlee@hotmail.com

HERE IS WHAT WE HAVE....


FROM: 2nd Tactical Air Force volume three from the Rhine to Victory January to May 1945" Authors: Christopher Shores & Chris Thomas
Page 522

"Just before 18:00hrs No. 350 Squadron's Belgians pilots arrived to the east of Schwerin whilst undertaking an offensive patrol, and here 20 FW190s were spotted." Four of these were claimed shot down...It seems likely that their opponents were aircraft of I/JG11, which lost 5 FW190s to Spitfires in this area during the day (where is the 5th?); two more were lost by IV/JG3 and another two by I/JG1. So as we can see in the Schwerin area there were 3 units with Fw190 - I/JG11, IV/JG3 and I/JG1

Entry in this book about 421 Squadrons exploits that evening:
"On their fourth operation of the day , eight Spitfire Mk.IXs (in fact Mk.XVI's) from 421 Squadron left at 20:00hrs for the Schwerin area , where a lone Fw190 was seen, and was claimed shot down by three of the Canadian pilots jointly."

Time: 20:30hrs
Date: May 1, 1945
Location: Just north of Schwerin
Who: No. 421 RCAF Fighter Squadron based at B.154-Reinshalen
Aircraft: Spitfire Mk XVI
Pilots:
No.1 Flying Officer Ed Mann aircraft serial no. SM411/Coded AU-E
No.2 Warrant Officer Paul S. Murphy aircraft serial no. SM392/Coded AU-T
No.3 Flight Lieutenant K.L. Langmuir aircraft serial no. SM284/Coded AU-B

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No. 421 Operational Record Book
National Archives of Canada
Record Group 24
Microfilm C-12295

May 1st Sortie from 20:00hrs to 21:10hrs

Armed Reconnaissance - Schwerin Area (Germany)
On this operation 33 M.F.T. were destroyed and 10 damaged. One FW190 destroyed shared by F/L K.W. Langmuir, F/O Ed H. Mann (AU-E/SM411), and W/O P.S. Murphy. Roads in area T.3550 to T4050 packed with M.F.T (motorized vehicles & tanks) when attacked, explosion force felt 800 feet up. 1 FW190 headed south at 200 feet, sighted and destroyed at 20:30hrs.


SEE THE ATTACHED

1) COMBAT REPORT for more information
2) photo from google maps just north of Schwerin -(looking south with village of Lubstorf on the Left/East of motorway
3) Photo of SM411 AU-E flown by Ed Mann
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Old 20th February 2009, 05:02
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Re: I/JG11, IV/JG3 or I/JG1 FW190 lost near Schwerin May 1, 1945

Here is a link for a Polish Documentary that was done on Spitfire SM411 that is currently in a museum collection in Poland. Enjoy (in Polish!)

http://ww6.tvp.pl/9142,20070927568385.strona
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Old 20th February 2009, 14:54
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Re: I/JG11, IV/JG3 or I/JG1 FW190 lost near Schwerin May 1, 1945

Hello Walshlee!
That's what I found out on the site www.luftwaffe.be , take a look:
01/05/45
Fw. Siegfried
Küttner

14./JG 3
Fw 190 A-
Combat with Yak-9,
area of Schwerin

01/05/45
Uffz. Raab
14./JG 3
Fw 190 A-
Combat with Yak-9,
area of Schwerin

01/05/45
Fhr. Krüger
I./JG 11

Combat Spitfire,
area of Schwerin

Unfortunately, the we do not have any kind of information about the Werknummer and code of the last Fw 190 A-???, which seems to be the plane shot down by 421 Squadron!
Hope this will help you to enhance your searches!
Yours
Adriano Baumgartner
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Old 20th February 2009, 17:00
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Luftwaffe Losses near Schwerin on 1 May 1945

Hi guys

Please remember that I./JG 1 was equipped with the He 162 jet fighter at the time. The combat losses for IV./JG 3 on 1 May 1945 were:

Feldwebel Siegfried Küttner of 14./JG 3 missing following aerial combat with Yak-9 in Schwerin area
Unteroffizier Raab of 14./JG 3 missing following aerial combat with Yak-9 in Schwerin area
Leutnant Karl-Alfred Schulte of 14./JG 3 prisoner of war due to enemy aircraft in unknown location, belly-landing at Helmstedt

The combat losses for I./JG 11 on 1 May 1945 were:

Leutnant Rudolf Holdermann of I./JG 11 killed in aerial combat with Spitfire fighters in unknown location
Hauptmann Schlotte of I./JG 11 killed in aerial combat with Spitfire fighters in unknown location
Unteroffizier Freytag of I./JG 11 killed in aerial combat with Spitfire fighters in unknown location
Unteroffizeir Jacob of I./JG 11 killed in aerial combat with Spitfire fighters in unknown location
Fähnrich Krüger of I./JG 11 missing following aerial combat with Spitfire fighters in Schwerin area

I hope this helps.

Horrido!

Leo
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Old 21st February 2009, 16:19
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Re: I/JG11, IV/JG3 or I/JG1 FW190 lost near Schwerin May 1, 1945

Hi all,

On 1 May 45, 10.(13.)/JG 51 was also active over Schwerin - six Fw 190D-9s of the Staffel escorted twelve Fw 190F-8s of an unidentified unit into the Schwerin area. F/Lt. Cowell of the "Kudos Red" Section of 41 Sqn shot down two D-9s, flown by Fhj. Ofw. Marquardt and Ofw. Buss. Both pilots parachuted (their planes crashing on the SE bank of Lake Schwerin), but the fate of Ofw. Buss remains a mystery. Regrettably, I do not have further information as regards the Fw 190F-8 Jabos.

I hope this information helps to complete the picture,

Marc Deboeck
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