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Old 5th September 2022, 18:29
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Information concerning loss of Franz Braun - 16.04.1943

Hi,

This might prove a little difficult!

I have just bought a sterbebild of a pilot called Franz Braun who died on the 16th April 1943.

He died of wounds after serving in Afrika.

He was born on the 22nd July 1922.

I cannot get onto Fold 3 at the moment so cannot even look there.

Can someone help?

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Rick
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Old 6th September 2022, 17:30
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Re: Information concerning loss of Franz Braun - 16.04.1943

I can't access Fold3 anymore either. I suspect it's a paid function now...
But maybe not the same case as yours.
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Old 6th September 2022, 17:40
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Re: Information concerning loss of Franz Braun - 16.04.1943

Rick,

You may have noticed that picture of family grave, including name of Flugzeugführer Franz Braun is on website findagrave.com. Text says he was injured in Tunis....

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Old 12th September 2022, 14:27
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Re: Information concerning loss of Franz Braun - 16.04.1943

Hi Leendert,

I have found the link you talk about and thank you for your help.

I wonder if someone has access to Fold 3 still to see if there is further information on his loss?

Thanks

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Old 15th September 2022, 15:26
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Re: Information concerning loss of Franz Braun - 16.04.1943

There are two deaths cards available on fold3 (https://www.fold3.com/image/699418895 and https://www.fold3.com/image/692292291) for Fw Franz Braun born on 22 July 1922 who died on 16 April 1943 (at 1700 hrs) in an universitary hospital in München, Germany.

Both cards agree on the above and say he was a member of Flugzeugleitstelle Luftflotte 2 (a flight test unit AFAIK). Rank is given as Flieger-Gefreiter in first card and Gefreiter in second.

First card gives no reason for death but second says he died from meningitis (with a word just before that I can't decypher).

My comments (only my own, humble opinion):
1) this guy probably dies from disease rather than from wounds, whatever the sterbebild said (but who knows what the family was told at the time?)
2) the rank of Flieger is the lowest rank in the Luftwaffe, and does not imply that the man wearing it was actually an air crew. By the way in 1943 such a low rank would be very unusual for a pilot, and probably the result of a martial court. He could well be a ground crew.
3) Flugzeugleitstelle were normally rear area units and given the situation in Tunis (which was never far from Allied lines during the whole campaign, and certainly heavily wounded during the period, especially in April 1943), I doubt Flugzeugleitstelle Luftflotte 2 would have been based here, but I have no proof. Still this man could have been sent there for some mission, but it is more probable he fell ill somewhere in Italy or Sicily before being sent to an hospital in Germany where he died.
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Old 16th September 2022, 13:04
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Re: Information concerning loss of Franz Braun - 16.04.1943

Thanks Laurent for your very considered and researched reply.

I very much appreciate it.
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Old 16th September 2022, 13:05
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Re: Information concerning loss of Franz Braun - 16.04.1943

Checking the sterbebild he wears a pilot's badge but no medals.
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