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Old 1st April 2005, 21:32
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Re: Battle of France - Battle of Britain (was Fighter pilots' guts)

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Originally Posted by Christer Bergström
Erwin Rommel:

"The reason to the defeat of the Italian units at El Alamein in early July had nothing to do with the Italian soldiers as such. The Italian soldier was eager, unselfish and a good comrade, and performed a work which, under circumstances, was far above the average. The accomplishments of all Italian units, particularly the motorised units, surpassed everything which the Italian Army has performed during the last 100 years. We adimred several Italian officers and generals as men and soldiers.
The reasons to Italy's defeat may be found in the flaws in the country's military and civilian system as a whole, the inadequate Italian equipment, and the lack of interest in the war which was showed by many Italian commanders and statesmen."

(From "The Rommel Papers" in Desmond Young's Rommel biography. My translation from the Swedish edition, "Rommel", Stockholm, 1950, p. 294.)
nice christer, but still i can´t read hawks comments about rommels words: my best soldiers were italians.
i am sure , the italians were hard fighters.
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Old 1st April 2005, 21:40
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Re: Battle of France - Battle of Britain (was Fighter pilots' guts)

"""the lack of interest in the war which was showed by many Italian commanders and statesmen"""".

that sounds pretty interesting .
i don´t have the feelings, my father, his brother or his friends had had much more interest in the war than these guys.

nor do i know one single veteran with such an feeling.

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Old 2nd April 2005, 15:04
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Re: Battle of France - Battle of Britain (was Fighter pilots' guts)

My reply to Hawk Eye above at the start of this new thread seems to as yet gone unanswered.


The thread seems to have taken on a quite different approach to the subject of the Battle of France, yet the matter raised by Hawk Eye re : townsend and others goes unchallenged by anyone other than myself.



I wonder why

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Old 2nd April 2005, 17:43
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Re: Battle of France - Battle of Britain (was Fighter pilots' guts)

Please take a look at:

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=928

Read the thread and afterwards make your statements.
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Old 2nd April 2005, 18:51
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Hi Ruy,


I Did, hence my peice at the start of this thread that was moved from the "Chickens" thread that was started by Hawk eye.

naive ?

No, at 63 years of age I do not appreciate that remark made by Hawk Eye.

I find it insulting.

All of that apart I have found the both threads very interesting, there is within these threads quite a bit of interesting detail.

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Re: Battle of France - Battle of Britain (was Fighter pilots' guts)

Your piece was not moved from the "chickens" thread, but from the "GUTS" thread. So you were answering a closed thread in a new one, albeit with generally the same subject and originating from the same person.

The reason the original thread was closed, was breach of forum policy...

Hence I do take some offence.
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Old 2nd April 2005, 21:37
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Hello Ruy,

I stand corrected.

I had truly thought that I had replied to the Hawk Eye thread in "Fighter pilots- Chicken" page. Indeed that was my intension at time of writing the thread seen at top. But that was days ago now, so take the final words from Rep Butler to Scarlet and lets move on.

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