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Old 4th April 2005, 19:49
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Re: I 61 - American?

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Sorry to correct you, but it was the I-153 which sometimes erroneously was called "Curtiss".
Thank you Christer for the correction, of course you are right.

A good list can be found in Die Jagdfliegerverbänce der Deutschen Luftwaffe 1934 bis 1945 Teil 6 / I Unternehmen "Barbarossa" Einsatz im Osten 22-6 bis 5-12-1941, by Jochen Prien and his team. It can be found on page 11 and contains a list of mistaken a/c identifications and designations.
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My post was too short...
I-200 was the name of prototype and first "null" series of about 100 planes which on 9.12.1941 were called MiG-1. So when entered the phase of military tests in 41 IAP in late December 1940 they were already called Mig-1. The serial numbers of MiG-1 were 2001-2100. Serials of MiG-3 started from 2101.
By Chazanov, Medvied, Maslov "Istriebitiel MiG-3" Moscow 2003.
The name "LaGG" appeeared first in december 1940 - the name was LaGG-1 and was given on 9.12.1941 by the order of NKAP, when Factory No 23 was trying to produce first 5 aircrafts of this type. Name was later changed to LaGG-3 when production was started in Factory No. 21 - first plane accomplished on 10.02.1941. It looks like none of produced aircraft was called I-301 - prototypes only.
Jakubovich "Samoliety Lavochkina", Moscow 2002
In "Piervyi Yak" by Kuznecov there is information that 66 (for all 1940) I-26 of military trial and initial series were produced in 1940 (Factories No 115, 292, 303). So in this point info by Sobolev is corect. 5 I-26 were shown during 1st may parade in Moscow.The name was changed by the same decision of NKAP on 9.12.1940.
But we must remember that these planes were in tests - in NII VVS or-in case of Mig-1, in combat units under care of NII. So it may be possible than names I-xxx were not familiar to militay stuff of first line fighter units.
Now, I think we're clear .

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Old 5th April 2005, 23:11
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Re: I 61 - American?

Off topic but for those who are interested.

Here are a few more designations for MiG-1/3 derivatives/prototypes.

I-211(E): MiG-3 M-82 (or MiG-9) fitted with boosted M-82 engine
I-230(D): MiG-3U fitted with 2 x ShVAK 20mm
I-231(2D): MiG-3 fitted with AM-38F high altitude engine
I-220(A): MiG-3 fitted with AM-39 and 4 x ShVAK 20mm

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All this planes were designd after (of in time - MiG-3 M82) stopping the production of MiG-3 in 1941/1942.
To names mentioned by Andy I can add: I-221. I-222, I-224 and I-225 designed in period 1942 - 1945. And it was the and of I-200 family I guess. MiG-9 (MiG-3 M82 and propably MiG-3 M82E) and MiG-3U were tested in combat conditions in i.e. 12 GIAP and 177IAP.
Very interesting modification of I-200 was IP-201 - the design of very heavily armoured fighter - 2xShKAS 7,62mm and 2xMP-3 20mm. Programme was halted in 1940.
I'm also sorry for being OT but it looks that this topic is about... MiG-3. And now we have mentioned, I think, all the names of prototypes and production fighters by Mikoyan and Gurievitch in 1940-1945.

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Re: I 61 - American?

There is Off Topic and there is Off Topic.

The topic of a thread can change, however if the change is unwanted by some of the participants they can always ask a moderator to split the thread into a new topic and the original.

In this case there is little harm done, on the contrary!
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