French top air victory records of 1940?

[GuerraCivil]

I came along an interesting claim of French ace Robert Williame. On 8.6.1940 he and his comrades of GC/I flying Morane 406 had a intense engagement with Bf 109´s near Beauvais. According to French combat report Williame shot down 3 Bf 109 in 15 seconds. His victims are mentioned to be Bf 109 E-3´s belonging to 2./JG 26, 3./JG 26 and 7./JG 3

Is the above true or legend? What German sources say?

Another interesting record is the "5 in 1" achievement by the famous Pierre Le Gloan. On 15.6.1940 he during a single sortie shot down 4 Italian CR 42´s and one Fiat BR 20.

Is the above true or legend? Do Italian sources confirm it?

[alessandro bray]

Hi, in the Beavais area the German involved units reported losses are:

7./JG 3 fw Franz Albert BF109 E-3 KIA time around 16,30 probably by Williame

2./JG 26 lt Walter Riemer BF109 E-3 KIA
3./JG 26 fw Alfred Burkhardt BF109 E-3 KG later returned
I/JG 26 losses are related to an early combat in the morning with GC II/5

Le Gloan's claims are very accurate
the 83. squadriglia lost 2 CR42 with 1 pilot killed (Colombo) e 1 captured (Parmiggiani), 85 squadriglia 1 CR42 pilot captured (Filippi), other aircraft were damaged but repairable.
The Br20 shot down by LeGloan was an aircraft from the 172. squadriglia

regards Alessandro

[Håkan]

Hello,

More info on Le Gloan's claims on my site at: http://surfcity.kund.dalnet.se/italy_graffer.htm

Best Christmas wishes/Håkan

[GuerraCivil]

Thanks for info!

Regards and happy New Year,

GC

[Arsenal VG-33]

Originally Posted by GuerraCivil

Another interesting record is the "5 in 1" achievement by the famous Pierre Le Gloan. On 15.6.1940 he during a single sortie shot down 4 Italian CR 42´s and one Fiat BR 20.

Is the above true or legend? Do Italian sources confirm it?

Hello,

There is some misunderstanding, i think. Le Gloan never shot down 5 italian plane but obtained 5 air victories from french homologation system. This is different!
It makes 2 shared victories with Assolant-Bernache, 2 indivdual for other later Fiats CR-42, 1 indivudual for the BR-20.

It makes 4 planes destroyed, for 7 homologated air-victories for the french pilots, 4 of them shared.

Fully corroborated by italan archives.

Regards

[GMichalski]

hi,
more info of Le Gloan here:

http://www.bibert.fr/Joseph_Bibert_f...LE%20GLOAN.htm

check carefully, great info in French......


regards