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Loss details for He111, WNr.3161 possibly with KG53?
Hi guys,
In order to try and ascertain the identity of the He111 emblem below, does anybody have a loss for He111 WNr.3161, possibly serving with KG53? 1. http://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Flu...-/130568199733 2. http://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Flu...-/130568199633 Many thanks in advance Peter D Evans LEMB Administrator Last edited by Peter D Evans; 3rd September 2011 at 15:14. Reason: spelling |
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Re: Loss details for He111, WNr.3161 possibly with KG53?
He 111 H-3 serial no. 3161 made a belly landing due enemy fire june 22nd 1941 at the airfield Grojec/Poland , damage was given with 30%, it belongs to Stab KG 53.
source GQM files regards khorat |
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Re: Loss details for He111, WNr.3161 possibly with KG53?
Many thanks indeed khorat, I'd been through my GQM files but without any luck. Now that you've provided a date, off to have another look and see why I missed it!
Thanks again Pete |
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Re: Loss details for He111, WNr.3161 possibly with KG53?
GQM report dated 20 Juli 1941 gives date 24.6.
Matti |
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Re: Loss details for He111, WNr.3161 possibly with KG53?
Its really difficult to tell on my copy Matti... is yours any better than the scan below?
Cheers Pete |
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Re: Loss details for He111, WNr.3161 possibly with KG53?
Hi Peter,
looking at the microfiche it is clearly the 24th. Regards, Norbert |
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Re: Loss details for He111, WNr.3161 possibly with KG53?
Yes, much better. Mine is from IWM microfilms. Date is absolutely 24.6.
Matti |
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Re: Loss details for He111, WNr.3161 possibly with KG53?
Many thanks for the clarification Matti & Norbert
Cheers Pete |
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Re: Loss details for He111, WNr.3161 possibly with KG53?
Going off on a slight tangent, but does anybody have any documentary proof of this emblem being associated with Stab./KG53 or do with think (as I do) that it is a personal emblem? I note from reading the entry for this unit in the excellent "Bomber Units of the Luftwaffe, Volume 1" by de Zeng IV & Stankey [Midland, 2007], that at the time of this loss, the unit had just relocated from Lille/France to Radom/central Poland with 6 (4) He111H's on strength. Photographs of these He111's seem pretty thin on the ground, so can anybody here throw any additional light on the use of this emblem?
Cheers Peter D Evans LEMB Administrator |
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Re: Loss details for He111, WNr.3161 possibly with KG53?
Hi All,
Is the crew also known? Stabsstaffel had a Lt. Günter Felix (KIA, 8th Oct. 1941), maybe it was his personal emblem? Regards, Thomas |
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