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Old 14th August 2018, 14:01
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It was PP-TFE that I have assumed was a seperate W/Nr aside from the 12 W/Nrs.899 to 910 that may have been a replacement for PP-TCL.

PP-TFE registered 04 August 1939 to Aeroclube de Minas Gerais and discharged 05 September 1944. I do not have more details.
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W/Nr.911 - To Yugoslavia - (Re-captured by German forces in derelict condition)

Tom,

911 in fuselage of Royal Yugoslav Air Force (RYAF) Buecker Bu-131D wasn't W.Nr. It is RYAF serial number.

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Old 14th August 2018, 21:33
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Hi Newcomer
The 911 was not painted on the fuselage but on the fin. As far as I know the serial numbers of Bu131s were always single or double digits only
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Dear Sergio,

JUST to confirm, PP-TEZ (Alberto Bertelli's - the famous Brazilian Acrobat - plane) is under restoration at RIO CLARO Airclub. I have seen the machine myself some time ago (1 year or so) and do recommend you a trip there to take pictures, etc...

My late father (born at Rio Claro) used to go to the Airclub's boundary to see the "Old Man" fly the circuit inverted and just snap roll to a normal touch down with this same Bucker 131...

Bertelli's Certificates and Licenses are there too, on a plaque inside Rio Claro Airclub.

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Hi Sergio
Thanks for the additional info on PP-TFE. In your 1st list you put the reg date as 04.08.39 but in your last note this is now listed as 04.08.38. If it is August 1938 would this not put it within the sphere of Bu131s in the 1st batch of 5 aircraft?
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Translating (From the above site) for everyone who flew or used to fly (like me) or still flies (one of his - Bertelli's - Dicta):

"The student learns to fly, obtain his Brevet (License), he continues to fly, he add the hours, he takes the exams and he is now a commercial pilot, with a lot of sacrifice, he got hired into a commercial company (to fly jets). Back to the Airclub with airs of importance, he talk about snakes and aviation lizards - which he is now part of. He looks with contempt at the old machines in which he learned to fly.Now he is Mr. So-and-so of Mister the Perez Hooks. He will never fly again on piston, old-fashioned things, with no instruments, and no other bugs.

If he is an authentic aviator, he will see that this is not the aviation that man has always wanted: accuse here, accuse there, and after two or three years of so much accusation (complaining), he returns humble to the Airclub, looks at the old P-56 (Brazilian version of the Piper Cub J-3) and asks to someone to give him a double command, because he do not know how to fly anymore. He want to fly, simply FLY"...
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Hi Sergio
Thanks for the additional info on PP-TFE. In your 1st list you put the reg date as 04.08.39 but in your last note this is now listed as 04.08.38. If it is August 1938 would this not put it within the sphere of Bu131s in the 1st batch of 5 aircraft?

Sorry, sorry, I have corrected the date. Sometimes I mix numbers and letters then have to correct, correct and correct again... 1939 is the correct year. I´m always grateful for someone pointing mistakes I do when writing.
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