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Old 23rd May 2019, 18:36
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Another help with German (old Sütterlin) names - back of picture

Please, I again do need some help with those familiar with German Sütterlin writting to identify those two names on the back of a Picture. One was Oberleutnant the other Oberst (first one). Time around early 1939.

Have tried to find a match on De Zeng LW Officers list, but can not definetely "translate some letters", therefore am unable to find matches...for rank and name. I really have tried...

Thank you in advance

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Old 23rd May 2019, 18:48
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Re: Another help with German (old Sütterlin) names - back of picture

Oberst Triendl?


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Old 23rd May 2019, 19:30
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Re: Another help with German (old Sütterlin) names - back of picture

Dear Matti,

Another time you come at hand and your help is deeply appreciated. I thought it could be FRIEMEL, but your answer seems more correct (promotion, frame of time, etc.). And his biography on De Zeng list gave me a possible location where the Picture was taken.

Thank you so much!

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Re: Another help with German (old Sütterlin) names - back of picture

I thought the other name could be Oblt Hövel....but it seems there are one R before the O...so, something like Hrodel.

This Oblt seems to be Adjutant.

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Old 23rd May 2019, 19:49
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Re: Another help with German (old Sütterlin) names - back of picture

The second probably starts with a "St", and not a "H"...

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Re: Another help with German (old Sütterlin) names - back of picture

First one is Triendl,
second one Strauel.


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Old 25th May 2019, 18:03
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Re: Another help with German (old Sütterlin) names - back of picture

Triendl and Strauch

Not Sütterlin. A mixture between Sütterlin and Normalschrift - as usual

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lieutenant-general theodor triendl

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On 1 June 1936 he was then taken over as lieutenant colonel in the Luftwaffe. He came now first as an officer z.b.V. to the Reichsluftfahrtministerium (RLM) to Berlin. From there he was commanded to various units. On 1 October 1936 he was appointed commander of the new Flieger-Ersatz-Abteilung 34 in Quakenbrück. On 16 March 1937 he was promoted to colonel. By renaming his unit he was appointed commander of the Flieger-Ersatz-Abteilung 24 on 1 April 1937. On 1 July 1938 he was appointed quartermaster of the Luftgau-Kommando XIII in Nuremberg. As such he was given the character of Major General on 1 February 1939. In the middle of June 1939 he was appointed commander of the Luftzeuggruppe 12/13. He kept this command then also at beginning of the 2nd World War in summer 1939. On 1st March 1940 he was promoted to the Major General. On 30 November 1942 he handed over his command to Colonel Josef Heimbach. On 1 December 1942 he was appointed inspector of the Schwerin Military Recruitment Inspectorate. As such he was promoted to lieutenant general on 1 April 1943. At the end of September 1944 he gave up his command and was made available to the Flieger-Ersatz-Division. On 31 January 1945 he was discharged from the service of the Wehrmacht. At the end of April 1945 he was arrested by the western allied occupation troops. He was released from captivity only in March 1947.
source in german: http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/...ndlTheodor.htm
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Dear Hans, Dirk, Roland and Ghostwriter,

THANK YOU so much for the most valuable help!

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with pleasure adriano ...

and for the name "Strauch" i found something in this database:
http://www.aircrewremembered.com/Kra...ase/?q=Strauch

see screenshot below!!

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