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Old 14th August 2010, 20:16
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Center For Military Studies & G. Kochan response

Dear Forum Members,

It has been brought to my attention that an email from Mr. Matt McCathy purporting to seek asssistance in locating the Center for Military Studies has beeen generating misinformation and half truths. In the interest of providing you the forum member a balanced pictue of both the Center and acquisition of the Logbook of FLT Tarkowski, i would like to submit the following background information fo your review:

First, the Center has never tried to hide anything of its operation or history. I do take blame for not having updated our website which would have eliminated much of the conjecture that has been guided by the slant of Mr. McCathy's posts on your site.

Mr. McCarthy contacted us prior to posting anything on your forum demanding that we sell back his "grandfather's" logbook. He stated that FLT Tarkowski had dementia, he was a trustee fo the estate and the Center had no right to the logbook. I wrote back stating that we as any institiution had a responsibility to honor the intentions of the individual entrusting something to our care. I explained to him that there had been tow occasions peviously where a family member felt that they deserved the item and did not agree with their family and seller of the item. Both thse occasions resulted in initial bad press because of the emotional natue of "family", yet in the end had resulted in even the dissenter accepting the wishes of the others and acknowledging that our venue was a prope one to honor their family member. During the time that I interviewed FLT Takowski, he was lucid and was able o answer any and all questions with great detail. Another point that Mr. McCarthy chooses to ignoe is that FLT Takowski's wife was pesent during the entire discussion, and no one has dared to suggest that she too was suffering from dementia. I was there to talk with FLT TArkowski at the behest of other former flyer who had participated in a documentary that I wrote and produced on the PAF duing WW2 called White Eagle in Borrowed Skies. FLT Tarkowski offered the logbook to me in hopes of aiding my efforts to research and to promote the WW2 history of the Poles. I informed them that his logbook had a financial value to collectors and that I insisted on paying them at least the auction value of comparable logbooks as a condition of taking it. At that point in time, I had already enjoyed some success in taking the Polish efforts mainstream and provided key atifacts and displays to the Mighty Eighth Air Force Museum, the 82nd Airborne Museum, and the Silent Wings Museum among others.

Despite our legal right to the logbook, I have from the very first communication stated that i would consider an exception to policy, selling it to the estate, provided that I received specific information attesting to FLT Tarkowski's alleged dementia and Mr. McCarthy's status as trustee or executor and concurrence of the others responsible for his estate. So that there could be no confusion, I even had my British lawyers formally state these conditions to Mr. McCarthy by seperate email and post. There has as of yet been no response to these basic requests.

Mr. McCarthy makes a point of saying that the item is not on the Center's website and that he is concerned as to whether it is even in the Center's possession. The website has never been intended a a catalog of inventory. It is there to provide additional access to researchers. Mr. McCarthy was informed from the start that the Center has the item and even has a copy of it courtesy of a researcher who obtained it through the Center.

Mr. McCarthy makes great note of seeking the museum of the Center in Texas. There has never been any museum in Texas, not have I eve claimed such. There is a "brick and mortar" location under our own control now, but not in Texas. The Center occupies a dedicated wing of the Polish American Museum in Port Washington, Long Island. I serve as curator and member of the board of directors at that institution in addition to my responsibilities as Executive Director for the Center.

Our organization has gone through several growth stages in its history. From small scale such as the earliest efforts in which I promoted the work of George Cholewczynski, author of Poles Apart by arranging a speaking tour and accompanying him so that he could present to many military professsional schools such as the Infantry Officer's Career Course. We learned much through our efforts to document the Polish struggle resultng in the documentary, White Eagle in Borrowed Skies. Each event gaining greater contacts, experiences and broadening our focus. Just as you don't need to own a studio to make a documentary, our early efforts at exhibits were aimed at using other institutions to pass the word. Soon, we were involved with suppoting several institutions. September 11th changed the access to many of the military museums and we experenced the effect that a change in directors can have at other institutions. So in the quest for greater control and access we fromed an alliance with the Polish American Museum under the leadership of Barbara Szydlowski, President which started off as a series of cooperative ventures and is now a formalized partneship. As stated earlier, we occupy a dedicated wing of the museum under our control and continue to expand, rotate and present new material at that location to enhance understanding of not just Poland's WW2 experience but recent efforts in Bosnia, Afghanistn and Iraq in conjunction with U.S. forces. Currently, we are in the process of releasing tow new documentaries abouth the Polish Forces in WW2 and updating the websites of both the Museum and following that of the Center.

Much has been made of the emotional impact of a family member's artifacts going outside of the family. I understand the influence of emotion because it is the emotional homage to my own father's service as a Polish paratroope during WW2 and my Grandfather with 2nd Korps as while as numerous other family members that prompted my efforts. They were catalyzed for me as result of my own experiences as an officer and decorated combat veteran who served alongside Polish forces. I hold very sasred the trust to honor the veterans, and family members who have placed the trust in us. We are not perfect and with each sput of growth experience the growing pains that accompany it, yet we are still didicated to that mission.

Lastly, I hope that you member of the forum will use that same enery you have displayed thus far to help us do an even better job in ur mission. We invite you to get involved, please feel free to contact me with your insights or questions directly at .

My thanks for your sense of fairplay in allowing me to respond,

Gerald M. Kochan
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Old 16th August 2010, 12:04
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Re: Center For Military Studies & G. Kochan response

I have removed my response as this forum is not the appropriate place for a debate

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Old 16th August 2010, 13:17
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Re: Center For Military Studies & G. Kochan response

Could you please take your private quarrels elsewere. This is a forum for Luftwaffe related topics. Anyway it's impossibel for others to know who of you is right.

Old 16th August 2010, 13:34
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Re: Center For Military Studies & G. Kochan response

Please feel free to remove it - I never felt confortable with the tit for tat on this forum anyway.

My orginal thread came from Chris Goss and his question on " The Center " a few years ago
Old 16th August 2010, 13:37
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Re: Center For Military Studies & G. Kochan response

I am going to move this to what I consider a proper forum, WWII in General. I am going to leave it there so any member can see the responses, but I am also going to lock it as this sort of private argument has no place on this board.
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