Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces

Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the German Luftwaffe and the Air Forces of its Allies.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 23rd January 2008, 02:27
Nokose's Avatar
Nokose Nokose is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Florida (USA)
Posts: 1,777
Nokose will become famous soon enough
Re: JG54 Victories

11Sep42 08:16- (Moscow)
9 Hurricanes of 3GIAP KBF escorted 4 Pe-2's of 73 BAP KBF
1st Pe-2 was shot down then the Hurricane of Mayor Alexandr Fyodorovich Myasnikov (3 victories and 15 shared; KIA). 2nd Pe-2 was damaged and escorted back to base.

JFV 9/III by Jochen Prien
9./JG54 Oblt Karl Frentzel-Beymo Pe-2 (8) 07:25 00264
9./JG54 Obfw Wilhelm Schilling MiG-3 (44) 07:30 00264
3./JG54 Obfw Rudolf Rademacher Pe-2 (21) 07:30 0025
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 23rd January 2008, 13:58
yogybär yogybär is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: ER.DE
Posts: 615
yogybär is on a distinguished road
Re: JG54 Victories

Thanks, Nokose!

For that day I find two Mig-3 claimed by Wilhelm Schilling, both same location, but one at 1800m, the other at 600m... (Anerkennungsnummer 277 and 278)
__________________
Liebe Grüsse, yogy
http://www.yogysoft.de
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 23rd January 2008, 18:17
Nokose's Avatar
Nokose Nokose is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Florida (USA)
Posts: 1,777
Nokose will become famous soon enough
Re: JG54 Victories

The other one according to JFV9/III was at 11:50 which I don't have anything.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 2nd June 2008, 23:20
Nokose's Avatar
Nokose Nokose is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Florida (USA)
Posts: 1,777
Nokose will become famous soon enough
Re: JG54 Victories

23Aug43
Oblt Robert Weiss 3/JG54
17:00 Pe-2 60123
17:05 Pe-2 60133
17:07 Pe-2 60132
Ofw Anton Doebele 1/JG54
17:01 Pe-2 60154
Lt Gerhard Loos 1/JG54
17:02 Pe-2 60762
17:04 Pe-2 61813

11 Pe-2's of the 82 BAP (escorted by 193 IAP)
loss 4 Pe-2's to fighters and 1 to flak
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 4th June 2008, 01:28
Nokose's Avatar
Nokose Nokose is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Florida (USA)
Posts: 1,777
Nokose will become famous soon enough
Re: JG54 Victories

18Aug43
Tony Woods List
Oblt Walter Nowotny 1./JG54
07:49 Il-2 6013
Lt Gerhard Loos 1./JG54
07:49 Il-2 60163
07:51 Il-2 60163
Uffz Hans Gruebert 1./JG54
07:52 Il-2 60191

18 Il-2 667 ShAP
Losses: 6 Il-2 (Including one force landing, Major Rymshin)
(Source: Над Огненной Дугой by Vitalie Gorbac)
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 5th June 2008, 15:03
P Alvim P Alvim is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 11
P Alvim is on a distinguished road
Re: JG54 Victories

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nokose View Post
19Jul41 Oesel Island
Uffz Otto Fischer 1.(Erg)/JG54 19:21 I-15
Lt Walter Nowotny 1.(Erg)/JG54 19:24 I-15
Nowotny 19:25 I-15
(No VVS losses per research by Andrey Dikov)
Hello,

Any updated information on this issue? Dikov stated that there were 3 I-15s and 1 Yak-1. No information to which aircraft St Lt Babernov was flying but probably the Yak ?
__________________
Best Regards,
Pedro
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 6th June 2008, 20:56
Nokose's Avatar
Nokose Nokose is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Florida (USA)
Posts: 1,777
Nokose will become famous soon enough
Re: JG54 Victories

St. Lt. Babernov (Dikov didn't have his first name) was flying the Yak-1. From Nowotny's on story he believed it was his wingman rejoining him.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 6th June 2008, 23:40
P Alvim P Alvim is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 11
P Alvim is on a distinguished road
Re: JG54 Victories

Yes. Just what I was thinking. Very odd to mistake a 109 for a I-15, with or without the white spinner.
I'm still curious about the fact that are no losses on Soviet records.
But, on the other hand, I find it hard to believe that Nowotny forged his first victories.
__________________
Best Regards,
Pedro
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 7th June 2008, 14:00
GrünherzJG54 GrünherzJG54 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 6
GrünherzJG54 is on a distinguished road
Re: JG54 Victories

I don´t know if it is helpfull for your efforts, but Gerhard Loos was my grandpa, I have a detailed list of his verified air victories. If you want me to post it here just tell me it can also be seen here http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=13295

greetings

Last edited by GrünherzJG54; 8th June 2008 at 16:45.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 19th January 2009, 13:37
globetrotter globetrotter is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Belgrade, Serbia
Posts: 9
globetrotter is on a distinguished road
Re: JG54 Victories

Hello Nokose,

07Apr41
Lt. Hans Beisswenger 6./JG54
17:50 Hurricane I (Ind. Esk. JKRV Kp Danio Gribic-WIA)


Captain Danilo Grbic parachuted from burning Hurricane. He was badly wounded and died couple of hours later due to blood loss. So you may change it to KIA.

Regards
GT
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Percentage of Verifiable Victories of Various Aces –Updates & Recommendations Rob Romero Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 25 9th March 2010 02:39
Luftwaffe shared victories (was: Hartmann ....352 victories or 80?) Vinman Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 48 22nd April 2007 06:49
Percentage of Verifiable Victories of Various Aces –Updates & Recommendations Rob Romero Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 0 30th September 2006 09:05
% of Verfiable Victories of Various Aces. Rob Romero Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 1 27th September 2006 11:05
Walter Schuck's Jet Victories. Tom D Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 4 4th November 2005 18:11


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 12:04.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net