Losses of Fw 190 of SG 4 - Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum

Many Souffan · #1 3rd March 2017, 19:35

Bonsoir.

I would like to know where I can find the losses only of FW 190 of SG 4 during the period from 1st october to 6th november 1943 over south of Italy.

By advance thank you.

Leo Etgen · #2 6th March 2017, 16:08

Hi Many

Luftwaffe im Focus No. 24 has a list of losses that II./SKG 10 (later redesignated II./SG 4) suffered in October 1943. The same list can be found in the French translation of the magazine on page 9:

http://www.luftfahrtverlag-start.de/...anzoesisch.pdf

Hopefully others can provide the losses for I./SG 4 and I hope this helps somewhat.

Horrido!

Leo

Andreas Brekken · #3 6th March 2017, 18:18

Hi, all

Will post my list later today. Only II. Gruppe in Italy as far as I can see, I. Gruppe losing aircraft in the vicinity og Kirowograd.

Regards,
Andreas

Many Souffan · #4 7th March 2017, 23:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo Etgen

Hi Many

Luftwaffe im Focus No. 24 has a list of losses that II./SKG 10 (later redesignated II./SG 4) suffered in October 1943. The same list can be found in the French translation of the magazine on page 9:

http://www.luftfahrtverlag-start.de/...anzoesisch.pdf

Hopefully others can provide the losses for I./SG 4 and I hope this helps somewhat.

Horrido!

Leo

Thank you very much Leo

I will by tomorrow this issue.

I have seen a long time ago, some photographs in color showing the same insignia of II./ SG 4 (in diffrerent colour) in a magazine, do you think it was also in other issue of Luftwaffe im Focus ?

By advance thank you.

Many Souffan · #5 7th March 2017, 23:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreas Brekken

Hi, all

Will post my list later today. Only II. Gruppe in Italy as far as I can see, I. Gruppe losing aircraft in the vicinity og Kirowograd.

Regards,
Andreas

Hello Andreas.

By advance thank you

Yes exactly only II./ SG 4 (in Italy) which was before 18 oct 43 the II./SKG 10.

Thank you again

Andrew Arthy · #6 8th March 2017, 01:14

Hi,

I./S.G. 4 (formerly II./Sch.G. 2) was also in Italy, at Piacenza resting and refitting. Those I./Schl.G. 4 losses on the Eastern Front in October 1943 were misreported due to confusion about recent unit re-designations.

Cheers,
Andrew A.
Air War Publications - www.airwarpublications.com

Andreas Brekken · #7 16th March 2017, 11:39

Frans A · #8 16th March 2017, 22:12

Andreas,
When I compare the data in 108267 and 110908 I find an Uffz. Rudolf Metzig and an Uffz. Rudolf Matzig. The first one in Fw190 7110, the second in Fw190 0071. Both MIA.
Is that correct?
Frans A

Many Souffan · #9 16th March 2017, 23:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreas Brekken

Thank you very much Andreas, it's very interesting for me, I really appreciate.

Stig Jarlevik · #10 17th March 2017, 10:34

Thanks Andreas

Very interesting data. I think I have located almost all aircraft.
However I am just as puzzled as Frans A about WNr 7110 since I cannot locate any G model having such a number.

I also find it very odd that two pilots then have almost identical names in the unit and on top gets killed almost the same day.

Have you or anyone else anything to add?

B Rgds
Stig

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