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Old 12th March 2020, 13:32
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Photo Albatros D.III (Oef)

Hello,


Currently on ebay a photograph of Albatros D.III (Oef) of Friedrich Navratil at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/C48-Flik-3J-...oAAOSwclFeTpP1


but which of the several aircraft flown by him? 253.06, 253.116 a.n.other?


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Old 12th March 2020, 15:08
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Re: Photo Albatros D.III (Oef)

Clint

This is not a photo of Navratil. It has been misidentified so many times it has become close to Gospel!

The photo is of Albatros (Oeffag) D.III 253.116 after its pilot Adolf Blaha had flown it to Switzerland. Photo date is 22 Nov 1918 (Peter Schiemer statement, but I actually think the date is 22 Oct, see below).

Both Blaha and the aircraft had a very strange story.
On 22 Oct 1918 Blaha took off from his airfield to avoid this aircraft to be destroyed by Italian bombing. By mistake he landed in Switzerland and both he and the aircraft was interned.
On 28 Oct 1918 the state of Czeckoslovakia was proclaimed and by international law the Swiss had to release Blaha. It was also realised they could no longer keep his aircraft, which by then was now Czeck property.
It seems Blaha left for Prague sometime after the photo was taken, but returned in March 1919 to collect the aircraft again. However when he returned home he experienced both snow and fog and promptly crashed his aircraft when trying to land and wrecked it!

All this is verified from Czeckoslovakian sources

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Old 12th March 2020, 19:57
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Re: Photo Albatros D.III (Oef)

Hello Stig,


Thanks for the response. Interesting biographical information.Totally accept your information on the pilot. However, a question. Given a number of other aircraft with very simialar personal markings, did the aircraft at sometime belong to Navratil before being flown to Switzerland by Blaha?



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Old 12th March 2020, 21:44
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Re: Photo Albatros D.III (Oef)

Indeed he did Clint

I just checked what Peter Schiemer wrote in his Albatros book which differs a bit datewise from the Czeck information.

According to Schiemer (his list is not 100% understandable by me mind you) the aircraft was delivered in Sep 1918 and assigned to Navratil Flik 3/J; 21 Nov 1918 Blaha used it to desert from Innsbruck to Schlieren, Switzerland; aircraft interned, 29 Oct 1919 aircraft collected by Blaha for the Czeck Government and on its transfer flight crashed at Prague-Kbely

With regard to aircraft 253.06 it was delivered in July 1918 to 11 Armee and assigned to Flik 3/J and was Navratil's aircraft until he crashed with it on 21 Oct 1918. No further records so probably never repaired.

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Old 13th April 2020, 20:46
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Re: Photo Albatros D.III (Oef)

Hello,


On 13.04.20 on ebay the following photos of Albatros D.III (Oef) can be seen:


Albatros D.III (Oef) 53.21



https://www.ebay.de/itm/M51-Oeffag-5...oAAOSwhzZelH~Y

Albatros D.III (Oef) 53.30



https://www.ebay.de/itm/M52-Albatros...IAAOSw8NNelIBK

Albatros D.III (Oef) 153.109 Waffenversuchsflik


https://www.ebay.de/itm/M53-Albatros...sAAOSwA9xelID5


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Old 22nd May 2020, 20:31
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Re: Photo Albatros D.III (Oef)

Hello,


Currently on ebay there is a shot of Albatros D.III (Oef) 53.33 at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/OX7315-DOPPE...QAAOSw58ZeyBa-


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