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Old 19th May 2020, 21:09
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Photo Hanriot 172 F-APXI

Hello,

Currently on ebay there is a photo of Hanriot 172 F-APXI at:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flugzeu...QAAOSwtbBewlV5

Has anyone any information as to which unit the F-APXI , or indeed any other Hanriot 172, was assigned to in 1939/40?

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Clint
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Old 19th May 2020, 22:15
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Re: Photo Hanriot 172 F-APXI

Hi clint

Already published page 88 of Avions Hors série n°24 given as Hanriot 182 n°7 (F-AXPI) in the dump of La Rochelle..

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Old 19th May 2020, 22:23
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Re: Photo Hanriot 172 F-APXI

Hi Bertrand,


Thanks for the information. Alas I accepted the information on the Air Britain site. It sounds like I might benefit from obtaining a copy of Avions Hors serie 24. Can you tell me, does it contain a lot of information with regard to aircraft with civil registrations in 1940?




Also , a further question if I might. I have F-APXH down as a Hanriot 172 serving with the E.A.P. at La Rochelle. While the source appears reliable, can you please confirm that F-APXH was a Hanriot 172 and not a 182.


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Old 20th May 2020, 10:50
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Re: Photo Hanriot 172 F-APXI

Bertrand (and Clint)

I believe there is a printing error in Avions Hors Serie 24.
F-APXI was certainly a Hanriot H.172N as was indeed F-APXH.

The whole range of small sesquiplanes (H.170 -H.195) are terribly difficult to differentiate from each other since, with the usual practice in France, they had slightly different engines and probably some other small refinements, many internal.

The 170 range had Salmson engines
The 180 range had Renault engines
The 190 range had Régnier

Since both the 172 and 182 were built towards the same standard (they were both manufactured as 'biplace de transformation') I would say the only outside difference is the engine.

From my feeble production lists of the two models
H.172 No 7 was registered F-AXPI
H.182 No 7 was registered F-AOJF

Of course Adl'A chose the Hanriot 182 so it was produced in a far larger quantity.

Cheers
Stig

PS: Yes there are quite a few photos of civil wrecks as well (that is what the booklet is all about - wrecks - mainly military ones!) but you will not find much regarding their unit location. Some bases are identified (some guessed and some wrong).

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Old 20th May 2020, 14:38
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Re: Photo Hanriot 172 F-APXI

Hello Stig,


Thanks for the reply. Are you aware of any other Hanriot 172 photos I could use for comparison purposes at? It would be really great if Avions or Lela could publish a volume on the company's products (naturally with a full list of impressed machines in 1940 )


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Old 20th May 2020, 15:22
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Re: Photo Hanriot 172 F-APXI

Sorry Clint

The 170 range of aircraft was not produced in great numbers so cannot be classified as a success. Max 10 civil aircraft were built (but I have only evidence of eight), while the Marine took a further six H.175.

There are some photos here and there, and if you did not download this one, you can see if you spot any obvious differences.

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Old 20th May 2020, 15:46
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Re: Photo Hanriot 172 F-APXI

Hi Stig,


Thanks for that. I can see from your attachment, that if the view of the engine is good enough it shouldn't be too hard to differentiate between members of the H.170 family on the one hand and the H.180 on the other.


Also just showing synchronicity, I'm surfing ebay.fr and :


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/AVIATION-PHO...QAAOSwb7tew~aN



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Clint
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