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Old 28th April 2020, 19:54
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Re: Photos USAAS Aircraft

Hello,


A further photo of USAAS aircraft in this case DH-4s and a Spads at:


https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WW...4AAOSwZDlenPes


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Old 1st May 2020, 11:07
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Re: Photos USAAS Aircraft

Hello,


Currently on ebay a photo of a Dorand AR-1 of the USAAS at:


https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW1-U-S-Pho...oAAOSw5e5cXvdk


It looks like No.244 but impossible to be certain that its not 244*


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Old 1st May 2020, 14:14
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Re: Photos USAAS Aircraft

Clint

I think we can be pretty certain it is No 244
Casari identifies No 244 as delivered, but not any No 244x.

Admittedly there are many non identified AR.2 delivered to the Yanks but as far as I can see this is an AR.1 (rhino exhaust) and their serial numbers did not go that far. Also if you look at the digits 244 they are in balance (centered) beneath the AR above.

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Old 1st May 2020, 15:04
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Re: Photos USAAS Aircraft

Hi Stig,


Sound reasoning. I concur. to be honest I was just being (too?) cautious.


While its not an area I feel any competence to comment doesn't http://albindenis.free.fr/Site_escad...ete_Dorand.htm indicate 244* was although not an option for the photo shown at least a viable number?


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Old 1st May 2020, 15:07
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Re: Photos USAAS Aircraft

The Dorand has the US flag insignia of the 1st Aero.
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Old 1st May 2020, 15:10
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Hi Nick,


Many thanks for the unit ID.


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Old 1st May 2020, 18:12
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Sharp eyes Nick!!

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Old 5th May 2020, 08:16
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Re: Photos USAAS Aircraft

Hello,


Currently on ebay a nice photo of two early USAAS aircraft, Martin TT serial 50 and a Curtiss JN-2, serial 47 perhaps? at:


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Military-Bi...AAAOSwlBtesL3s


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Old 5th May 2020, 10:55
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Re: Photos USAAS Aircraft

Clint

A very nice photo!!

While the TT is indisputable I would venture an educated (oh well... ) guess and say the other aircraft is a JN-4B No 157. At this time all surviving JN-2 had been modified to JN-3 standard and was with No 1 Squadron (all having a star on their fins)

Another reason is, not that I am a Curtiss Jenny expert, but because I have Robert Casari's 'Bible' by my side.

At this time both the Martin and this particular Jenny was on a search for two missing fliers from bases in southern Calidornia (Dec 1916 -Jan 1917). Casari specifically mentions that TT No 50 was in on that search.

Easy, peacy when you have the 'Bible' right in front of you....

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