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Old 22nd April 2018, 14:55
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Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

He 219 W.Nr. 310 316.
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Old 22nd April 2018, 22:34
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1000+ posts well now, who would have thought that?

  1. Afrika Bf109 graveyard https://www.ebay.com/itm/lot-of-2-Ge...MAAOSwtJFazTbx
  2. Italian wreck Italy https://www.ebay.com/itm/1944-WWII-U...0AAOSwhjRaw8i3
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Old 23rd April 2018, 00:12
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Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Well done Michiel ! This thread obviously hits a soft spot among the TOCH community

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Old 23rd April 2018, 05:28
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#994 You are absolutely correct Nick. According to the 2-part history of TGr30 by C.Archambault & J-L.Roba in 'Avions 131 & 132', TGr30 was formed from KGrzbV23 in May 1943 with Stab and four staffeln, but when it moved from the MTO (Practica Di Mare to Kaufbeuren in Allgau) at end of 1943 , the 4/TGr30 was dissolved and absorbed by the other three staffeln.The 'Aero Journal Hors-Serie 48' is devoted to the He111 and authored by C-J.Ehrengardt and on page 112 is a colour profile of 5J+HK (701412) as operated by 3/TGr30 at Zellhausen at end of 1944, so perhaps Pegg's (700328) could actually be 5J+IP of 6/KG4. The 5J or S3 is not distinct whereas the IP is clearly marked
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Old 23rd April 2018, 06:27
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Hello everyone,
I reread all of the threads regarding He 111 H-20, marked 5J+IL, and found abandoned at Schweinfurt. However, I am still uncertain what the consensus is regarding its Werknummer. In my files, I have twelve photos of this aircraft, several of which clearly show that it is Werknummer 700628.
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Old 23rd April 2018, 07:06
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#1005 Thanks Steve for this info, so do your copies clearly show 5J+IL or 3S+IL?.
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Old 23rd April 2018, 07:37
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Hello Peter,
I should have been clear. Sadly, my photos show the WNr. and +IL, not the Geschwader code.
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Old 23rd April 2018, 10:16
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Ju 52:

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Old 23rd April 2018, 10:52
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Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

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Hello Peter,
I should have been clear. Sadly, my photos show the WNr. and +IL, not the Geschwader code.
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Steve Sheflin
If it's clearly W.Nr. 700628, it is definitely a TGr. 30 machine. According to reports from that Gruppe it suffered 10% damage while taxying at Strasbourg-Entzheim on 6 November 1944. It was reported as one of the unit's aircraft dispersed in Zellhausen on 23 November and was 25% damaged in a crash there on 3 January 1945.

The only reference I have to an S3+IL is for a successful flight to Guernsey on the night of 9/10 December 1944.
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Regarding #1001: Is this He 219 W.Nr. documented? According to my books, this W.Nr. is outside the known blocks.
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