Hauptmann von Muehlheim 3./ZG1

[Many Souffan]

Bonjour.

I would like to know if someone has the code of the Me 110 of Hauptmann von Muehlheim of 3./ZG 1 lost 2 sept 39 in Poland ?

My second quastion, do we know exactly the German losses for this day (2 sept 39) for the Do 17 and the Me 110.

By advance thank you.

[Bf 110]

Hello Many.

I could not give u an answer to your first question. I'm still looking for this code, too. One note. His name was "von Müllenheim-Rechberg" not Muehlheim. ;-)

For your second question I've got the following for Bf 110:

1./ZG 76, FF Oberleutnant Christoph Nagel (WIA, POW) and BF Unteroffizier Ernst Lochbaum (KIA), a/c Bf 110C-1 M8+AH, Werknummer 948, 100% loss

2./ZG 76, FF Unteroffizier Helmut Mütschele (escaped unhurt) and BF Gefreiter Kurt Bluhm (KIA), a/c Bf 110C-1 M8+?K, no Werknummer, 95% loss

and for Do 17:

2.(F)/11, FF Oberfeldwebel Ernst Eder (WIA), BO Oberfeldwebel Helmut Dehner (WIA) and BF Oberfeldwebel Helmut Kuhfeld, a/c Do 17P 6M+DK, no Werknummer, 60% loss

4.(F)/11, FF ? (POW), BO Oberleutnant Müller (?), BF ?, a/c Do 17P 6M+?M, no Werknummer, 100% loss

2.(F)/121, FF Unteroffizier Emil Armbrost (POW), BO Unteroffizier Wilhelm Henningsen (POW) and BF Gefreiter Werner Gerndt (KIA), a/c Do 17F 7A+GK, no Werknummer, 100% loss

Additions and corrections are very welcome.

Best regards
Gunnar - Bf 110 -

[Peter Cornwell]

Gunnar,

Like you, I have no precise information on the codes carried by the Bf110C of Hptm Wendelin Fr von Müllenheim-Rechberg (Staffelkapitän) of 3./ZG1 on 2 September 1939. However, I was interested to note that you provided the codes of Oberfw Ernst Eder's Do17P of 2.(F)/11 lost on that day and would be most grateful to learn the source of this (to me) previously unrecorded information.

Many thanks.

[Bf 110]

Peter,

this information came from an ebay auction in 2014, where three photographs of that force landed a/c were sold, giving the name of Ofw. Dehner in discription. Unfortunately I got only copies of the photos, so I cant say, if there's a caption on the backside of them. So it's more an assumption than an evidence. I'm sorry.

BR
Gunnar - Bf 110 -

[Peter Cornwell]

Thank you Gunnar. I will see if I can track down scans of the photos you mention.

[Many Souffan]

Thank you Gentlemen for these first infos