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20th January 2005, 21:17
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KG 30 Losses Sep 39-Mar 40
Does anyone have the Namentliche Verlustemeldung for KG 30 for the above months or confirmation of what was lost?
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#2
20th January 2005, 22:18
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This is what I have
Hi Chris,
the info I have is from the Genst. Gen. Qu. 6. Abt. 09-10-39 I./KG 30 North Sea Missing Ju 88 Obltn. Kahl MIA 3 Crew MIA 16-10-39 I./KG 30 Firth of Forth Shot down by FLt. G. Pinkerton in a Spitfire of No. 602 SQ. Fell into sea at 1445 hrs. Ju 88 A-1 4D+AK 100% Hptm. Pohle POW Gruppenkommandeur Uffz. Seydel K. KIA body recovered Gefr. Scxhleicher A. KIA body recovered 1 Crew MIA 16-10-39 1./KG 30 Westerland Crash shortly after takeoff Ju 88 45% 16-10-39 1./KG 30 Firth of Forth Shot down by 603 Sqn. fell into sea 4 mi. N Port Seton at 1530 hrs. Aircraft later recovered Ju 88 A-1 4D+DH 100% Obltn. Storp H. POW Fw. Köhnke H. POW Fw. Hielscher H. POW Above airman captured injured by trawler Dayspring Obgefr. Krämer MIA 17-10-39 1./KG 30 Scapa Flow Shot down by AA fire, exploded Ju 88 A-1 4D+EK 100% Obltn. Flaemig MIA Uffz. Attenburger MIA Obgefr. Faust MIA Uffz. Ambrosius F. WIA POW 21-10-39 I./KG 30 AF Westerland Hit by Bf 109 of 1./JGr. 101 Ju 88 880019 80% 2 Crew KIA 1 Crew WIA 25-11-39 KG 30 Kiel-Holtenau After installation of new engines took off without test flight. 3 min. after takeoff crash. Was en route to Westerland. Possible engine problems. Ju 88 55 100 3 Crew KIA 1 Civilian mechanic KIA 06-12-39 I./KG 30 Ludwigslust Gear collapsed on landing, pilot error Ju 88 025 50% 18-12-39 1./KG 30 Westerland During landing, tire blew Ju 88 35% 22-12-39 1./KG 30 Enemy mission Damaged by fighter defenses Ju 88 50% 01-01-40 1./KG 30 North Sea Shot down by British fighters Ju 88 100% Ogefr. Kasiske KIA 3 Crew MIA 17-01-40 5./KG 30 Perleberg Left engine failed during go-around Ju 88 70% 19-01-40 I./KG 30 Greifswald Gear collapsed while being towed Ju 88 30% 19-01-40 II./KG 30 AF Perleberg Returned single engine to airfield. Shortly before reaching runway crash, possible low speed Ju 88 100% 3 Crew KIA 1 Crew WIA 03-02-40 1./KG 30 Moray Firth AA fire from Minesweeper aircraft sank in sea Ju 88 A-1 100 Hptm. Rosenthal Heinz F POW Staffelkapitän Gefr. Dirks Karl B POW Uffz. Freund Reinhard Bf POW Gefr. Nussbaum Karl Bs POW 09-02-40 II./KG 30 England Forced landing at sea Ju 88 100% 3 Crew MIA 1 Crew KIA 15-02-40 I./KG 30 Westerland Snowdrift Ju 88 75% 15-02-40 I./KG 30 Westeralnd Snowdrift Ju 88 40% 22-02-40 II./KG 30 Perleberg Crash during bombing practice Ju 88 100% Ltn. Meyer KIA Ing. Glund? KIA 2 Crew KIA 06-03-40 I./KG 30 near unreadable Forced landing, both engines failed Do 17 P 55% 06-03-40 II./KG 30 Westerland Crash landing due to poor visibility, windshield iced up Ju 88 40% 08-03-40 3./KG 30 40 mi E Orkney Did not return from mission Shot down by 111 Sqn. Ju 88 100% Obltn. v. Siebert POW 3 Crew POW Denmark 10-03-40 I./KG 30 AF Garz Loss of directional control during landing Ju 88 60% 13-03-40 II./KG 30 Oldenburg Flared too high Ju 88 40% 13-03-40 6./KG 30 Westerland Bomb explosion during loading One aircraft was ready to depart. While the last 250 Kg bomb was being loaded it exploded. Ju 88 100% 4 Crew KIA 13-03-40 6./KG 30 Westerland See above Ju 88 40% 3 Crew KIA 13-03-40 6./KG 30 Westerland See above Ju 88 10% 13-03-40 6./KG 30 Westerland See above Ju 88 minor 13-03-40 6./KG 30 Westerland See above Ju 88 minor 1 Crew WIA 16-03-40 I./KG 30 Unknown Did not return from mission Ju 88 100% 4 Crew MIA 29-03-40 6./KG 30 Creswell Bay AA fire, crashed into sea Ju 88 A-1 4D+AP 100% Obltn. Quadt R. KIA Fw. Hartung G. KIA Uffz. Hesse E. KIA above bodies recovered from sea 1 Crew MIA 02-04-40 Stab/KG 30 Great Britain Unknown Ju 88 100% Not reported 09-04-40 4./KG 30 correction 4 Crew MIA 09-04-40 III./KG 30 Hptm. Mahrenholtz KIA Body washed ashore on Danish coast, on 14-08-40 10-04-40 KG 30 Unknown Unknown Ju 88 A 100% Unknown 10-04-40 KG 30 Unknown Unknown Ju 88 A 100% Unknown 17-04-40 3./KG 30 Island of Namor Forced landing Ju 88 A 100% Crew captured and brought to Great Britain There are gaps between 21 Mar 40 and 02 Jun 40 in the loss report I have I do not known if they are available at all. Whould love to find out though. Some info in the above reports are from the Blitz series as well. Hope this helps, Norbert
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#3
21st January 2005, 20:21
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Thanks for your efforts which match with what I have. However, there are omissions for example 3 Apr 40 when Lt Fritz Koch (4 Staffel) and Oblt Karl Overweg and Uffz Willi Erkens (5 Staffel) were lost, the latter being victims of a combat with a Sunderland. I have all the NVMs for May and June 40 plus all for Z/KG 30 if you are interested. My aim is to try and find out what exactly they were up to oct 39-Apr 40
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#4
22nd January 2005, 03:32
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Thanks Chris,
yes I'm inertested. You could just e-mail them to me if this is o.k. This will allow me to update my database. Thanks Norbert N.Schuchbauer@comcast.net
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#5
22nd January 2005, 17:03
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Mahrenholtz of III./KG 30
Hi there
Allow me to correct a minor piece of info with regard to Mahrenholtz of III./KG 30 killed on 9/4 1940. His body was found near Thyboron in Denmark on 27/7 1940 and was laid to rest in Lindholm cemetery near Aalborg West on 30/7 1940. In the mid sixties he was moved to Grove cemetery near Fliegerhorst Grove. Soren Flensted WWW.Flensted.eu.com
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#6
23rd January 2005, 00:39
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Ergänzungskampfgruppe 4 (ErgKGr 4) /KG30
Norbert/Chris
Perhaps you can have a look at my post on the recovered Ju88 from Lake Jonsvatnet. Belonged to KG30 supposedly. No listing. Belonged to ErgKGr4 previously. Is there a listing? regards Mark
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#7
23rd August 2005, 23:55
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Re: KG 30 Losses Sep 39-Mar 40
Hello!
I have a Wehrpass plus other papers belonging to a Uffz. Hans Heinrich Selk. He was a pilot in the 3. Staffel KG 30. on October 8. 1939 the Wehrpass says that he is "Tödlich verunglückt", but I do not know the circumstances. I do not know, if this is any help at all Chris, but there You have it. All the best and thank You for some excellent books over the years. Christian
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Hi! I am a collector of LW items and a modeller of german WW2 planes with a history.
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#8
24th August 2005, 21:53
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Re: KG 30 Losses Sep 39-Mar 40
Hi Chris: A bit off topic.With regard to a thread you posted a year or so ago,about Z/KG-30 personnel. Wondering if you could confirm if Oblt. Gerhard Frhr.Grote had flown with Z/KG-30, and if he, per chance, transferred to the Schlacht arm when Z/KG-30 was redesignated as a NF unit ? Cheers. Dean
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#9
4th September 2005, 10:48
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Re: KG 30 Losses Sep 39-Mar 40
Grote was on Z/KG 30 and killed in an accident 31 Mar 40 together with an Uffz Wilhelm Zugst
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